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RE: Threat of Axis Deer on the Big Island - oink - 10-07-2011
There should be a small bounty on feral cats and mongoose.
Pua`a
S. FL
Big Islander to be.
RE: Threat of Axis Deer on the Big Island - Carey - 10-07-2011
From the first page of this thread
"As to offering bounties....The Hawaii DLNR Tech. Bul 07-01 Review Ungulate Control Methods & Approach states:
"Bounties have been found to be generally ineffective in animal management, and have actually resulted in increases in the target species in many cases"
RE: Threat of Axis Deer on the Big Island - Bullwinkle - 10-07-2011
I lived on an island with a goat problem
They hired hunters from far away and paid them well as no one had a solution
The hunters tied a female goat in eostrous to a stake
and shot all the males that came to inquire
problem solved
Wont solve ongoing ecological damage done by "legal" overgrazing by poorly managed cattle operations however
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RE: Threat of Axis Deer on the Big Island - oink - 10-07-2011
quote:It worked well for the wolf. Feral cats and mongoose have no value for hunters for trophy, meat or pelt. A small bounty to encourage varmint hunting might help. Probably worth a try. There would have to be a way to determine what areas the cats were being removed from or there would surely be some azz who would go for easier targets.
Originally posted by Carey
From the first page of this thread
"As to offering bounties....The Hawaii DLNR Tech. Bul 07-01 Review Ungulate Control Methods & Approach states:
"Bounties have been found to be generally ineffective in animal management, and have actually resulted in increases in the target species in many cases"
Pua`a
S. FL
Big Islander to be.
RE: Threat of Axis Deer on the Big Island - KeaauRich - 10-07-2011
If we get rid of the feral cats, who's gonna manage the rats that the mongooses (mongeese???) were brought here to control???
RE: Threat of Axis Deer on the Big Island - PaulW - 10-07-2011
If you offer a bounty for smaller animals then won't some people just start breeding them in order to collect?
RE: Threat of Axis Deer on the Big Island - dmbwest - 10-07-2011
Dang it Paul !!! : )
aloha,
pog
RE: Threat of Axis Deer on the Big Island - Midnight Rambler - 10-07-2011
Goats are relatively easy to control if you want to put the effort into it. They are social and move in herds, so you can use "Judas goats" - fit one with a radio collar, release it, and it will seek out a herd. Then you track it down and shoot the whole lot. They also prefer open country. Mouflon, on the other hand, are very difficult. They move in small groups of females with one male, so they're not susceptible to that technique. If you do aerial shooting they'll run under a tree and stay there even as you're shooting them. On the ground, they can detect people from far away and run very fast.
RE: Threat of Axis Deer on the Big Island - Bullwinkle - 10-07-2011
I saw the goats eradicated in 2-3 years - most folks including the feds and fish and wildlife "fish" in the parlance were clueless as to any real solutions engaging in ever more studies -
Until the kiwis arrived hired by the land owners,
I think there are parallels here its theory vs practice .......
we can study this to death - or call a couple of Kiwis - grin
meanwhile the real damage being done to land supported by the interior dept land lea$e$ to cattle operations who run the show
RE: Threat of Axis Deer on the Big Island - Bullwinkle - 10-07-2011
http://www.ctahr.hawaii.edu/oc/freepubs/pdf/PRM-3.pdf
The final point to be considered when drafting an
agreement is the overall long-term goal for the land.
Grazing lease agreements should include a grazing
management plan. Many landowners in Hawai‘i do not
do this, and the result is severely overgrazed pastures.
The development of a grazing management plan is essential to the lease agreement.