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RE: HPP BIZ: Part the second - leo - 02-19-2019
Can't we at least focus the lawsuits in the proper direction?
Isn't this going to cost the association a lot of money? I guess the general manager thinks it's worth dragging HPP through the mud over. Obie isn't the general manager a friend of yours? Do you know if the director was served before the article came out? If not, what a way to learn about it.
RE: HPP BIZ: Part the second - mermaid53 - 02-19-2019
Ref the Tribune article, "Untrue and defamatory statements"....
What if there are no lies? Then it's not "untrue and defamatory" right?
Please don't jump to conclusions. There are always two sides to every story.
RE: HPP BIZ: Part the second - My 2 cents - 02-19-2019
"Isn't this going to cost the association a lot of money?"
I don't know the details of HPP business but the way it SHOULD work out is that the Director should be covered by D&O insurance. It would likely have a rather large deductible but that should be the extent of the financial cost to the association. As plaintiff the GM would be financing that side personally with little chance of recovering anything without a victory or at least a solid, indisputable case. Money to burn?
RE: HPP BIZ: Part the second - kalakoa - 02-19-2019
There are always two sides to every story.
I suggest that the HPP story has more than two sides.
RE: HPP BIZ: Part the second - mermaid53 - 02-19-2019
Isn't this going to cost the association a lot of money? I guess the general manager thinks it's worth dragging HPP through the mud over. Obie isn't the general manager a friend of yours? Do you know if the director was served before the article came out? If not, what a way to learn about it.
Aloha,
leo... The director had no idea about the lawsuit until someone called her about the Tribune article. She hasn't been served yet.
My 2 cents...Agree.
kalakoa...you are accurate with your assessment.
obie..."Shouldn't this be a new chapter? 'Part the Third' Good idea !"
Appears you've already deleted part the 3rd...
RE: HPP BIZ: Part the second - Obie - 02-19-2019
"Appears you've already deleted part the 3rd..."
Yeah,I started a new topic and moved my original post, which was a link to the newspaper article.No one posted anything there and continued posting here. So I was able to delete it. The only post was mine.
RE: HPP BIZ: Part the second - Seeb - 02-19-2019
There are at least three sides to this already, the sue-er, the sue-ie and the hppoa Corporation. If hppoa can prove that whatever the sue-ie did was outside the scope of he/she’s job it could get the association off the hook
RE: HPP BIZ: Part the second - kalakoa - 02-19-2019
From the Fine Article:
Those statements include, according to the filing: "The GM was playing a shell game with expenditure accounts of the financial reports"; "Fact, there has never been a real accounting of the expenditures with documentation …"; "We have already got evidence that the GM has no problem in hiring questionable vendors, skirting regulations …"; "allowing the GM to spend $1,500.00 per day with no oversight is criminal"; and "I sincerely believe that at best the project was mismanaged and at worst includes misappropriation."
Striking similarities to the allegations made in these very forums! I'm sure it's just a coincidence, and I look forward to DISCOVERY.
Even if my enthusiasm is misplaced: I consider HPP to be an accurate microcosm of "the County Way", and think these efforts would be better focused on the "faux residential" problem...
RE: HPP BIZ: Part the second - Chunkster - 02-19-2019
Seeb is probably right about the association. Directors and officers liability insurance typically only covers acts done as part of the official duties of the person being sued. The insurance carrier may view the alleged defamation as being personal and not official in nature, particularly if the act or acts in question took place outside the usual HPP venues.
In case some of you don't know what we're talking about, here is the link to the local newspaper's report that the General Manager of HPP is suing a board member:
https://www.hawaiitribune-herald.com/2019/02/19/hawaii-news/hpp-owners-association-general-manager-sues-board-member/
Meanwhile, my road is in better shape than it's been for years, and that's after five inches of rain. I hope all this doesn't distract the workers from what appears to be much improved performance.
RE: HPP BIZ: Part the second - Obie - 02-19-2019
Sorry about the confusion I created when I deleted my part the 3rd post.
It seemed like a good idea when kalakoa mentioned it.