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RE: TMT - Contested Case Hearing Status - Hilo - kalakoa - 10-30-2017
Some Kanaka's may feel disrespected and unrepresented at those state meetings that are deciding the Kanaka's and their Keiki's future.
Nothing prevents them from participating.
Sam Gon is not a true Kanaka
Sam Gon actually showed up for the hearing instead of refusing to testify.
RE: TMT - Contested Case Hearing Status - Hilo - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 10-30-2017
Should... and Why?
What gives...?
Was...?
Who... and why?
Some Kanaka's may feel...
So much time talking, asking questions, so little time to answer the questions other people have asked you.
jmo
“Facts fall from the poetic observer as ripe seeds.” -Henry Thoreau
RE: TMT - Contested Case Hearing Status - Hilo - kalakoa - 10-30-2017
so little time to answer the questions
Not unlike refusing to participate in the hearings because they're "irrelevant proceedings of an illegitimate government" ... then complaining that you weren't represented.
RE: TMT - Contested Case Hearing Status - Hilo - Guest - 10-30-2017
Both BLNR chair Suzanne Case and Stanley Roehrig have been very involved in this TMT issue from the beginning.
Who does Suzanne Case and Stanley Roehrig represent?
Should These two have been allowed to be called to the stand in the TMT contested case hearing?
Why were Suzanne Case and Stanley Roehrig disqualified from being called to the stand?
In this recent video some here may recognize both Suzanne Case and Stanley Roehrig. Their positions, opinions and voices within this TMT issue may influence many.
These two did have a choice to testify or participate at the contested case hearing didn't they?
http://www.bigislandvideonews.com/2017/10/30/video-report-tmt-huli-blnr-and-world-peace-on-mauna-kea/
More questions for you HOTPE. Although I don't expect you to answer these Questions, maybe yo will surprise me.
Please remember, We are encouraged to ask not necessarily answer questions here on this PWeb forum.
Who, or what department was originally responsible for allowing the cart come before the horse process to happen?
Why did the TMT permit and ground breaking ceremonies come before the granted contested case hearing in the first place?
Did they not know the legal process and laws or were they intentionally trying to avoid a very important process?
Why is this same BLNR Chair and board handling this TMT situation again?
Why is it in their hands again, Don't most of us already know what they wanted to begin with?
The many protectors who were forced into action due to the handling or mishandling of the TMT permit process are still being ignored and underrepresented in this continued TMT process. jmo
RE: TMT - Contested Case Hearing Status - Hilo - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 10-30-2017
Although I don't expect you to answer these Questions, maybe yo will surprise me.
Please remember, We are encouraged to ask not necessarily answer questions here on this PWeb forum.
OK, I'll remember that, starting right now.
“Facts fall from the poetic observer as ripe seeds.” -Henry Thoreau
RE: TMT - Contested Case Hearing Status - Hilo - kalakoa - 10-30-2017
OK, I'll remember that, starting right now.
When is "right now"? How do we know you'll remember?
RE: TMT - Contested Case Hearing Status - Hilo - MarkP - 10-30-2017
It has been clear all along that a certain core group of protesters merely enjoy tilting at windmills. This is part of human nature and I don't actually decry the existence of such individuals, it being an inescapable part of human nature. I do decry the silence of the majority of native Hawaiians who don't want to appear as though they are not true Hawaiians. Ironically their silence is what does not do Native Hawaiians justice. At this point, arrests occurring would be a refreshing sign that sanity is prevailing.
RE: TMT - Contested Case Hearing Status - Hilo - MarkD - 10-30-2017
From Mark P "I do decry the silence of the majority of native Hawaiians who don't want to appear as though they are not true Hawaiians. Ironically their silence is what does not do Native Hawaiians justice. At this point, arrests occurring would be a refreshing sign that sanity is prevailing."
Could you elaborate on these views a bit, and also how you see the TMT project, as it relates to what might be best for native Hawaiians.
RE: TMT - Contested Case Hearing Status - Hilo - TomK - 10-30-2017
"Could you elaborate on these views a bit, and also how you see the TMT project, as it relates to what might be best for native Hawaiians."
MarkD - Instead of having people repeat the same thing they have written on all the TMT threads we've had on PW over the years, why not contact PUEO and ask them? You'll then be able to post what they say and start a new and fresh discussion. This way you'll be asking native Hawaiians for their own views.
http://alohapueo.org/
http://alohapueo.org/contact/
RE: TMT - Contested Case Hearing Status - Hilo - TomK - 10-30-2017
"Please remember, We are encouraged to ask not necessarily answer questions here on this PWeb forum."
The answer from a troll. I think Rob means ask questions so they can be answered. That's what decent people do.