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RE: county inspectors used for harassment - justthefacts - 05-26-2015
they would have to survey the entire subdivision again .
there are a growing number of tents and illegal structures. does not help property values . the shacks and tents that are visible from the road look unsightly and creates a look of urban ghetto.
RE: county inspectors used for harassment - MattKarma - 05-26-2015
Some of them are actually quite charming; tree-houses, garden dwellings ... the 'slack' can be used in a good way.
RE: county inspectors used for harassment - Kapoho Joe - 05-26-2015
quote:
Originally posted by justthefacts
they would have to survey the entire subdivision again .
there are a growing number of tents and illegal structures. does not help property values . the shacks and tents that are visible from the road look unsightly and creates a look of urban ghetto.
No wonder people are reporting their neighbors then.
RE: county inspectors used for harassment - kalakoa - 05-26-2015
tents and illegal structures. does not help property values
Hawaiian Acres has no property value, generally. People who are concerned about such things should go live in HPP or similar "investment" subdivision.
RE: county inspectors used for harassment - Kapoho Joe - 05-26-2015
The times they are a changin...
RE: county inspectors used for harassment - terracore - 05-26-2015
quote:
Originally posted by justthefacts
they would have to survey the entire subdivision again .
there are a growing number of tents and illegal structures. does not help property values . the shacks and tents that are visible from the road look unsightly and creates a look of urban ghetto.
Maybe that should be the litmus test. If unpermitted structures are visible from public or others' private land, then a complaint can be filed. If only visible from the air, then who cares? Since the only concerns seem to be waste management and tax scofflaws, then only enforce septic requirements and minimum tax on unpermitted structures (they can't get mortgage loans, so the value can never be THAT high).
Of course it won't change unless somebody wants to change the law, anybody want to step up to start the process?
RE: county inspectors used for harassment - justthefacts - 05-26-2015
i realize that the acres is low on the totem pole in the subdivisions , but it is getting really bad , why do i have to move to another place just because I choose not to live in a tent city. that's why there are laws and rules . really move. people should be concerned . why should one subdivision allow people to do what ever they like, allow sewage to be dumped on the ground, or in the bushes , allow any kind of structure , over a period of time that will turn into a real mess , a health problem out of control as the streams that flow through the acres connect to all the lower subdivisions spread that nasty mess down to the ocean. so yes people should be concerned. do the right thing get a permit and a proper septic system .
RE: county inspectors used for harassment - terracore - 05-26-2015
They have been saying that to the homeless population on Oahu for years, with the same result.
RE: county inspectors used for harassment - kalakoa - 05-26-2015
that's why there are laws and rules
So many to choose from! One of these "laws" says "developer must pave subdivision roads prior to final plat approval". There's also a "rule" about "minimum altitude 1500' over populated areas".
why should one subdivision allow people to do what ever they like
Simple economics: there has to be a "wrong side of the tracks" where "those people" are allowed to live. If this were a mandatory real estate disclosure item and/or recorded on the deed, people who "choose not to live in a tent city" could make an informed decision about their residential situation.
allow sewage to be dumped on the ground, or in the bushes , allow any kind of structure
Do not conflate issues. "Unpermitted" does not automatically mean "unsafe" and/or "unsanitary". Permits do not magically solve plumbing problems or provide extra structural integrity. Look at downtown Pahoa for an example.
If unpermitted structures are visible from public or others' private land, then a complaint can be filed
Exactly.
RE: county inspectors used for harassment - birchl - 05-26-2015
as far as sewerage goes, it is apparently 'grandfathered in' properties, that have no sewerage or power restrictions!! why should someone be allowed to pour their sewerage down the lava tubes and claim they are exempt? and then complain about everyone else?? the hypocrisy kills me.
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