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RE: Rat Lung BIll SB 272 Needs support - randomq - 03-28-2017 Obie, I wasn't aware county water was available in Hawaiian Acres, where do I sign up and what's the "cheaper than catchment" cost? RE: Rat Lung BIll SB 272 Needs support - kalakoa - 03-29-2017 wasn't aware county water was available in Hawaiian Acres Yes. They're running water lines every time they pave a new road, saves work that way. RE: Rat Lung BIll SB 272 Needs support - djs - 03-29-2017 FYI bananahead, rat lungworm has killed on the Big Island. A friend of ours died from it 2 years ago. RE: Rat Lung BIll SB 272 Needs support - Eric1600 - 03-29-2017 I think people here are missing the point. * They don't know how it spreads (catchment? Food? All speculation at this point) * They don't have a good test for it, it requires minor surgery (spinal tap) * The total number of cases goes underreported partly due to difficulty and expense of diagnosis * Serious cases have resulted in death, permanent disability, and loss of income and quality of life * Without funding we won't really know how to prevent it or test for it. Saying bull**** like "it's all on you" is meaningless. This is FUNDING to look into solving these problems and understanding it. Leptospirosis is a side issue and is well understood. quote:https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3689490/ So....try to submit your testimony early today. You can do so on Hawaii State Legislature's website (https://goo.gl/Byur2w) or email representative Sylvia Luke at repluke@capitol.hawaii.gov RE: Rat Lung BIll SB 272 Needs support - kalakoa - 03-29-2017 bull**** like "it's all on you" is meaningless Unfortunate reality: without funding, this is what we have. Consider the track record: LFA, dengue, coqui, ROD. "Fight the bite" and "don't transport ohia" both sound an awful lot like "it's all on you"... RE: Rat Lung BIll SB 272 Needs support - Eric1600 - 03-29-2017 Kalakoa, the difference is we don't have enough information to do anything about RLWD. And "fight the bite" has been proven to work in other countries. ROD is still under study but the two fungi are entirely new species unseen anywhere else. LFA and coquis were not stopped soon enough so they are here to stay. RE: Rat Lung BIll SB 272 Needs support - kalakoa - 03-29-2017 LFA and coquis were not stopped soon enough Track record... RE: Rat Lung BIll SB 272 Needs support - MarkP - 03-29-2017 Bananahead has a point. Leptospirosis sounds almost nice while Rat Lungworm... no need to say more. Meanwhile, not to discount the threat or the fact that it is growing, the attention given to RLW is out of proportion to the actual impact. The whole bit about RLW in catchment water is a red herring if you are not making an equally big stink about Lepto and all the other possible water-borne contaminants. Basically if you are already treating your water properly for the other stuff you don't have much to worry about from RLW via water. If you are not properly treating your water then yes you have numerous things to worry about. At that point we can discuss the relative risks and challenges posed by RLW. During that discussion the risk of RLW's horrible symptoms would be balanced against the relative ease with which the water supply can be guarded against it. But if you are not treating and filtering your water in the first place, why complain? RE: Rat Lung BIll SB 272 Needs support - Eric1600 - 03-29-2017 Why complain? Simply because they don't know how it spreads or how to stop it from spreading. Everyone posting here about "what you should do" is just speculating, because it is unknown how it spreads and what works to stop it. It is also unknown on how many people have been infected or what the long term damages are from this parasite. I am continually amazed at the things people argue over on this forum. RE: Rat Lung BIll SB 272 Needs support - randomq - 03-29-2017 An early, non-surgical test would be worth our tax dollars. And a great contribution from our state to the world. |