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RE: Why no access for those isolated by flow? - Obie - 02-20-2019
"people working behind the scenes" leads to speculation on the part of the general public"
The people working behind the scenes involves the general public.The general public in the affected area.
We obviously don't share our information on Punaweb much but if you go into the archives of recent County Council meetings and committee meetings you can find out a lot.We also have private facebook groups and email chains.
The VHCA HOA and KKWA subscribers are also active along with a former county council member.
Bottom line is, if you don't live in Kapoho or previously lived in Kapoho, you probably don't have a real need to know.
RE: Why no access for those isolated by flow? - leilanidude - 02-20-2019
No rebuilding of roads can happen until 6 months have passed
Unless it's for PGV, or a beach park.
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PGV built their road on their own property, tied into the remaining portion of 132.
The road to Pohoiki actually opened up access to a lot of folks.
RE: Why no access for those isolated by flow? - glinda - 02-20-2019
The road to Pohoiki actually opened up access to a lot of folks.
Yes, it is a good thing. But the thrust of my post is why has the same not happened for folks along that upper portion of 132?
Obie can go on about secret meetings that we, the tax payers who pay county officials to be at those meetings, should not be privy to. Shame on you Obie. But the fact is Harry got his moment of glory and the folks mauka, not in Kapoho Obie, have yet to get theirs. WTF?
I hear that county, that Harry's spokesperson, says six months is what HVO says. And then I hear that HVO doesn't say that, won't own it. That it is a quote from Reggie Okamura who has passed decades ago. Sure Harry went to school with the Okamura boys, but so what? Why hang this on Reggie? Get on with it and make a road already.
The road need not be a permanent rebuild of #132. All I am suggesting is give access, the same access that was given to the folks makai, to those who still do not have it. The hardship that this must be causing them should be alleviated.
RE: Why no access for those isolated by flow? - Chunkster - 02-20-2019
"Bottom line is, if you don't live in Kapoho or previously lived in Kapoho, you probably don't have a real need to know." - Obie
Now there's an approach all the good old boys and corrupt local politicians can get behind. It's everyone's money and everyone's county government, or at least it's supposed to be. Harry Kim and his cohort love people who are OK with the taxpayers being blind, deaf, and dumb.
As for kalakoa's "wit," it comes from a deep cynicism of the county that any intelligent observer should have.
RE: Why no access for those isolated by flow? - lisa - 02-20-2019
This is the message today from the Director of Public Works, Allan Simeon: (it is filled with acronyms, not all of which I know the meaning of)
I would like to share with you that the County as a whole is doing all it can and the DPW in particular is working with the DOT and FHWA to expedite the planning and permitting required to at least temporarily restore HWY-132 from the “Y” to Four Corners. DPW is also working with HI-EMA / FEMA for the small portion of HWY-137, from the Four Corners to Cinderland, to provide connectivity.
Given that HWY-132 is a County FHWA Federal Aid roadway, the Federal Aid project delivery process including permitting requirements must be followed, unless requests for exemptions from the Feds are granted. Applicable State and County permitting requisites must also be satisfied. As may have been explained in the last working group meeting, securing funding, planning and permitting, contract preparation and eventually bidding, award and construction takes time. However, whenever possible, we do ask our partner agencies from the Feds and the State to help us in facilitating the project delivery. The DOT/FHWA have agreed to a modified procurement process and an abridge NEPA Cat-Ex process to help expedite consultant hiring and the planning/environmental aspect of the project. However, permitting such as the National Pollutant Discharge Elimination System (NPDES) normally takes at least 6 months to secure, but the County will request the Department of Health for their help as well. Generally, the County will pursue permitting exemptions when possible and applicable.
Thank you for your patience and we encourage you to continue in supporting us, as we move forward with the process of restoring HWY-132 and provide connectivity to the area. Mahalo.
Allan
RE: Why no access for those isolated by flow? - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-20-2019
Thank you Lisa - - great information.
RE: Why no access for those isolated by flow? - lisa - 02-20-2019
I agree with the point Glinda makes about "hanging the 6 month road building moratorium on Reggie." There is no evidence of that. Harry is dragging his feet for whatever reason and we are the worse for it.
If you write Harry (and I encourage you to visit his website and do so!), Diane Ley will write you back with the statement that "The 6 month wait period WILL BE ADHERED TO."
Why for us and not PGV?
RE: Why no access for those isolated by flow? - Obie - 02-20-2019
"Obie can go on about secret meetings"
The meetings aren't secret.They have been held at the county council chambers.
"Now there's an approach all the good old boys and corrupt local politicians can get behind."
Same answer for you.
There have been private meetings of our board of VHCA. They are getting a feel for what the majority wants.We can't spend the counties money though.
"the folks mauka, not in Kapoho Obie, have yet to get theirs. WTF?"
I'm not sure what you're ranting about.The area mauka is also considered Kapoho. These are my friends and former neighbors.Do you know any of them ?
RE: Why no access for those isolated by flow? - kalakoa - 02-20-2019
Why for us and not PGV?
Why for 132 but not 137 to Pohoiki?
RE: Why no access for those isolated by flow? - glinda - 02-20-2019
Do you know any of them ?
Yep, know 'em. And it is their discontent and the fact that Diane dragged a very good friend of mine's name into the mix as Harry's excuse to stall and not take care of them, that encouraged me to start this thread.
Face it Obie, by your previous posts you are aligning yourself with county that is stalling, is outright harming its citizens. All I said, and I said it here today and I said it when PGV opening up their road, is put in a temporary access to those properties that are still viable.
I suggested that PGV could do so and earn some brownie points for it and geochem slammed me.. how dare I suggest they be good neighbors. I am saying it here now, because it is a farce that county hasn't put in a cheap, quick, and only for local traffic, access.
Geochem said why would PGV open themselves up for the liability? BS. All Harry would have had to do was say do it. If a liability issue was brought up the county should buy the policy. It is a no brainer.
Sheesh Obie. your's is gone, over, repaved. But the properties along #132 are still there, still viable. So show a little heart and align yourself with your neighbors rather than stick it to them.