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RE: Ruderman lies about PGV - snorkle - 05-15-2019
Before the LERZ eruption, HELCO was charging $8000/pole to put in their 19th century grid distribution system. Smart people will invest their money in home power systems (that will make the grid even more expensive).
If any of you believe that Puna's electric rates are going to be anything but the highest in the nation......I have an ocean view lot on Luana St. for just $80,000.
RE: Ruderman lies about PGV - bananahead - 05-16-2019
nothing new
Ruderman has always been a joke... Ive ripped him many times on FB for inaccurate conspiracy based BS!
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RE: Ruderman lies about PGV - alaskyn66 - 05-16-2019
Fun fact: recently had a guest who is a trouble shooter for a mainland major power grid. ( not PG@E) . .. and marveled that all these subdivisions even have continuous power.
RE: Ruderman lies about PGV - terracore - 05-16-2019
HELCO is a "cost plus" billing company. Their scam is that they will add 10% or whatever (10% number madeup for sake of simplicity, I don't know how high it is) markup to any services they contract out to bill us for.
So they would rather send 10% of 0.40/KWH to the shareholders than 10% of 0.11/KWH. The shareholders don't want LESS money, so the incentive is to keep electricity costs as high as possible. It's not just about electricity production, think about maintenance. Tree trimming, moving the poles over 5 feet one year for road expansion, and then another 5 feet over 3 years later, etc. Brand new trucks every few years when the old ones would do. Driving their trucks back and forth between Hilo and Kona every day over Saddle at 5-10 MPH below the speed limit for no reason, etc.
As a for-profit monopoly it is in their best interest to "find" the most expensive energy producers they can and wine/dine/bribe whoever is necessary to convince us that is a great idea and get the PUC to approve it.
HELCO doesn't want PGV to cost less than fossil fuels. They want PGV electricity cost to be as close to fossil fuel prices as possible. Soon they will convince us all that to combat global warming, we all NEED to pay more than fossil fuel prices for our electricity, and they will find companies to provide the higher prices for us.
Fortunately, they are nearing the end of their scam, because becoming grid-free is becoming more and more affordable.
RE: Ruderman lies about PGV - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 05-16-2019
they would rather send 10% of 0.40/KWH to the shareholders
Utilities are generally considered low risk, low return equity investments. They are allowed to adjust their rates in order to reach a target return on shares as a way to encourage shareholder investment. The current rate of return is 9.5%:
Hawaiian Electric's current Authorized ROE of 9.5% was approved by the PUC
https://www.hawaiianelectric.com/about-us/key-performance-metrics/financial
Utilities are monopolies so a government agency, the PUC, sets a limit on shareholder return as there is no competition that would act as a price control in a free market. The return on equity (ROE) is a compromise between what is deemed fair for both shareholders and customers of the utility.
RE: Ruderman lies about PGV - kalakoa - 05-17-2019
grid-free is becoming more and more affordable
This is merely an oversight which will be corrected in future revisions of the building code.
RE: Ruderman lies about PGV - dan d - 05-19-2019
Ahhhh guerella solar, only utilized on full moons at nite.
Aloha
HPP
RE: Ruderman lies about PGV - 1voyager1 - 05-19-2019
quote:Even if he's from Pahoa, he's a politician.
Ruderman lies about PGV
If his lips are moving, it naturally follows that he's lying.
RE: Ruderman lies about PGV - Midnight Rambler - 05-20-2019
Add to that the fact he's from Pahoa, so it naturally follows that he's going to lie about PGV in particular.