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RE: TMT - Contested Case Hearing Status - Hilo - randomq - 08-15-2016
A simple change in the law could fix that (redundant studies, procedural red tape) and benefit all of us and our tax dollars.
RE: TMT - Contested Case Hearing Status - Hilo - Aaron S - 08-15-2016
quote:
Originally posted by randomq
A simple change in the law could fix that (redundant studies, procedural red tape) and benefit all of us and our tax dollars.
The legislature did amend the law for any appeals of conservation district use permits last session. The appeal will be heard by Hawaii Supreme Court immediately instead of having to go through the Intermediate Court of Appeals first.
RE: TMT - Contested Case Hearing Status - Hilo - pahoated - 08-15-2016
quote:Your emotionalism is letting logic and the truth of history get distorted in your neural pathways.
Originally posted by Eric1600
Have you noticed all the high schools that are suddenly competing in robotics competitions? Some even nationally?
All the science and technology in Hawaii is due to Senator Inouye. He is the one man that got the first observatory on Mauna Kea. He is the one that has made Pearl Harbor a front line fortress for the military.
These robot clubs in Hawaii high schools has been going on for a long time. To claim the observatories are major factor for the Hawaii island school program is a real stretch. Public education is DOE.
This is all going off in wild tangents, as usual. TMT Corp. is employing almost nobody right now on Hawaii island. Donations to the school system are considered charity and deductible by TMT Corp. All this wound-up rubber band emo garbage is totally hypothetical. The distortion is to start wrapping the other observatories into the soup. Nothing is going on there. They are happily upgrading, confirming major discoveries, no worry, brah.
They all know they are decommissioning in 2033. So, right off the bat, they are not career positions for a new grad right now. Might be worthwhile to ponder that and what the plans could be. Maybe they unfold, maybe not, but TMT not being on this island is going to be inconsequential to high tech future proof employment.
*Japanese tourist on bus through Pahoa, "Is this still America?*
RE: TMT - Contested Case Hearing Status - Hilo - kalakoa - 08-15-2016
TMT not being on this island is going to be inconsequential to high tech future proof employment.
Disagree: TMT would be "more than nothing", which is what we otherwise have because it's just too expensive to operate here.
RE: TMT - Contested Case Hearing Status - Hilo - MarkP - 08-15-2016
Often overlooked is just how little else Hawaii in general and the Big Island in particular has going for it. We have to pimp ourselves out to the tourist industry. That's been going on so long that nobody questions it. Why anybody would object to the astronomy industry boggles the mind.
RE: TMT - Contested Case Hearing Status - Hilo - leilanidude - 08-15-2016
quote:
Originally posted by MarkP
Often overlooked is just how little else Hawaii in general and the Big Island in particular has going for it. We have to pimp ourselves out to the tourist industry. That's been going on so long that nobody questions it. Why anybody would object to the astronomy industry boggles the mind.
I love this comment. [8D]
RE: TMT - Contested Case Hearing Status - Hilo - kalakoa - 08-15-2016
We have to pimp ourselves out to the tourist industry.
Yet, somehow, the resorts are not considered "desecration", despite the fact that at least one of them is built on or near some royal fishponds.
RE: TMT - Contested Case Hearing Status - Hilo - randomq - 08-15-2016
quote:
Originally posted by pahoated
TMT Corp. is employing almost nobody right now on Hawaii island.
Darn businesses, not employing people before we allow them to build here...
RE: TMT - Contested Case Hearing Status - Hilo - TomK - 08-15-2016
Fair comment, randomq, although the TMT has already employed several locals. Also, as Eric1600 was alluding too earlier, $3 million has already been invested into education on the Big Island. Some links regarding the THINK Fund:
http://www.tmt.org/about-tmt/outreach-education/think-fund
http://www.tmt.org/gallery/video/hawaii-island-new-knowledge-think-fund
http://www.staradvertiser.com/hawaii-news/despite-tmts-legal-limbo-stem-fund-retained/
http://bigislandnow.com/2016/08/01/think-fund-awards-11-scholarships/
There are several other articles out there about the fund if people want to do their own research. Remember, the funding disappears if the TMT relocates.
RE: TMT - Contested Case Hearing Status - Hilo - Guest - 08-15-2016
We also should Remember, If the TMT has to pick another site then much of the needed infrastructure and resources the Big Island has to offer may also disappear.
It may take much more time and $money$ for the TMT project to build up the needed infrastructure in another country. The Big Island's site of Mauna Kea and it's already built up infrastructure may be very expensive to duplicate in another far off country. They may find that Some of the important pieces or parts of the TMT project may be very difficult to put together or fix on another site, in another country. jmo
The keiki of the Big Island today and it's future generations need quality educations and opportunities. A competing quality education today at most top 25 universities costs about $200,000 plus per student, 1-3 million a year won't be helping to many Big Island keiki today let alone 30 to 50 years from now.
If the TMT and the Hawaiians do somehow find this elusive common ground and decide to move forward with this project then Deferring the promised educational Money until 2033 may be a better long-term investment for both the TMT project and our Island's next generations? Some sports athletes today are being paid by this deferred process, like this former baseball player.
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/07/new-york-mets-bobby-bonilla-contract-2035-deal