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RE: Bringing Firearms When Moving to B.I. - mailes - 05-05-2012 Some really frightening facts from the justfacts.com website At the current homicide rate, roughly one in every 240 Americans will be murdered.[23] * A U.S. Justice Department study based on crime data from 1974-1985 found: • 42% of Americans will be the victim of a completed violent crime (assault, robbery, rape) in the course of their lives • 83% of Americans will be the victim of an attempted or completed violent crime • 52% of Americans will be the victim of an attempted or completed violent crime more than once[24] RE: Bringing Firearms When Moving to B.I. - OrchidIslander - 05-05-2012 quote: Or, the very low rate of gun crime in Hawaii could mean that there are far less guns owned here comparatively speaking. The low rate could also be a result of far fewer criminals locally to worry about. Honestly, I worry way more about gun owners that fixate on "criminals." RE: Bringing Firearms When Moving to B.I. - Guest - 05-05-2012 quote: Hopefully you never have to worry about the "criminals". A gun to me is like any other tool, I would not have it if I did not think there was a purpose for it. As far as the statistics go, my automobile is the most dangerous tool I have. Most crime in Hawaii is a good old fashioned ass kicking with fists and feet. Good luck outlawing that one, seems like your only chance for survival is going to be a bigger set of fists and feet, although you would probably end up really hurt anyways. If only there was a way to put an end to a situation without hurting anyone? Guns prevent 4 times as many crimes as crimes committed with guns. As in no one getting hurt, despite some really crazy peoples intentions. “Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms.” -Ron Paul RE: Bringing Firearms When Moving to B.I. - Greg - 05-05-2012 I pointed out my familiarity with guns to counter the inevitable argument that I'm afraid of them. I'm not; I'm just very, very, comfortable with living here a long time without the need to have one around. People talk about freedom without discussing responsibility. I'm sure that the gun advocates posting here are mostly safe and careful with their weapons. The problem I have is that with gun proliferation comes a larger number of folks that are for a lack of a better phrase; Idiots with guns. Is it locked? Serviced? Is a thief going to take it from them? Are they going to panic one night and shoot uncle Kimo who got drunk and tried to open the wrong garage door? Is their kid going to get hold of it and bring it to school? I'm perfectly happy with the serenity of not needing one to feel safe. If I felt the need to arm myself, the stress associated with such a lifestyle change would take years off my life. Forget the criminals; I'm just not that afraid. Let's work to keep our idiots unarmed. RE: Bringing Firearms When Moving to B.I. - Guest - 05-05-2012 quote: Or better yet, off the road. “Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms.” -Ron Paul RE: Bringing Firearms When Moving to B.I. - PaulW - 05-05-2012 Hawaii has very low gun ownership and very few gun-related deaths. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Oh yeah, the UK has a "growing crime problem" but it's nothing compared to the US. Must be all those idiots with guns. RE: Bringing Firearms When Moving to B.I. - oink - 05-05-2012 By my non-lawyer reading a standard unaltered SKS would be fine. One altered to take the larger magazines would not. One of the models that accepts AK mags would not. Don't worry Glen, I won't bring more than 6 or 7, well maybe 8: 1)Carry pistol. 2)Small pocket pistol(walks). 3)Fancy carry pistol that's too expensive to get beat up actually being carried but I like. 4).22 revolver for killing armed and dangerous tin cans. 5).22 rifle for pests and possibly pigs. 6).44mag revolver for when I hunt pigs with a .22. 7).44 or 308 carbine for pigs. 8) 270 rifle for goat. 9)12g for birds 10)Maybe a 1911 if I find a club. 11) Maybe a .22mag rifle for pigs. 12)The single shot combination rifle that my shift gave me when I retired, for hanging on the wall. Oh sh!t, that's more than I thought, sorry, but that should do. But ya know, I would really like a bolt action .223 but I don't have one. The rest I'll give to my kids, as I've already started doing. Do you think I should bring an AR or Mini-14? Pua`a S. FL Big Islander to be. RE: Bringing Firearms When Moving to B.I. - jackson - 05-06-2012 This may get me kicked out of here, but **** YOU AND **** YOUR ****ING GUNS. Leave them on the Mainland or stay there with them. Giving me a rational argument for hand guns or asemi automatics is ****ing bizarre. They are nothing but a macho replacement for ineffetual masculinity or repressed whatever. As far as the second ammendment, that was in a time of revolution when households were armed to fight the British. As far as guns not killing people, give me a ****ing break. Most guns used in crimes where I am originally from (more gun murders than most places) were stolen guns with serial numbers scratched off. FACT: The more guns, the more people will die from them. Houses will still be robbed and guns will be robbed with them. Imagine the punks who robbed the tourist couple at the hot ponds with guns. GIVE ME A ****ING BREAK. Bring your hunting rifle if you need to kill animals, but hand guns and semiautos. Take Viagara instead. Again: **** YOU. RE: Bringing Firearms When Moving to B.I. - oink - 05-06-2012 Tell me how you really feel. Pua`a S. FL Big Islander to be. RE: Bringing Firearms When Moving to B.I. - Bullwinkle - 05-06-2012 I have been to S. Florida - understand the need for all the hardware - grin Trolls 1 punawebers 0 - grin |