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RE: Big Island *takes first step* in banning GMO's - geochem - 10-07-2013
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Originally posted by rainyjim
"Reality ain't what it used to be"
^ great bumper sticker I saw at malama yesterday.
Monsanto may not own the patent on Papaya at the moment...but its just a matter of time, if they wanted it - it'd be theres. I love the willful naievete comments reveresed. I agree greg, its obvious the groundwork for a completely different stage is being built and most have yet to see the man behind the curtains.
but clearly, paranoia still is...
RE: Big Island *takes first step* in banning GMO's - Rob Tucker - 10-07-2013
As I remember it the GMO work for the Anti-Ringspot Papaya was developed and patented by the U.H. College of Tropical Agriculture.
RE: Big Island *takes first step* in banning GMO's - rainyjim - 10-07-2013
As I prophesier the GMO Papaya patent will have ownership transferred to Monsanto in the near future.
Call it paranoia if you will. It doesn't take too deep an understanding of business to realize a major corporation focused on patenting our food supply will eventually target our cherished U.H. Hilo developed and patented Papaya.
A point of curiosity for me will be: argument will the Big Island GMO proponents utilize once their patent is owned by the chemical corporation Monsanto?
RE: Big Island *takes first step* in banning GMO's - PaulW - 10-07-2013
Define "near future". How do you know they want to patent our food supply? Is it in their mission statement?
Anti-GM people, please come up with a better argument than "But Monsanto...". People in the third world are going blind while you let ignorance become fear.
Maybe you can start a collection for a monument to the victims of GM. But what names will you put on it?
RE: Big Island *takes first step* in banning GMO's - MarkP - 10-07-2013
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Originally posted by JungleWahine
I believe papaya are exempt from this. What I cannot find information on, is what will happen with the bishop estate property being leased by Monsanto. Will they be allowed to continue to spray what they are spraying and do whatever else they are doing for the remainder of their lease here?
Aloha JW:
Not trying to pick a fight just make an observation. You are not even the worst offender.
This was about GMOs, yet this post automatically equates GMOs with flagrant overuse of "whatever they are spraying". Granted we are talking about Monsanto but still there logical and ethical principles that deserve lip service even if Monsanto benefits incidentally. I think much of the anti-GMO frenzy is unwarranted and this sort of what I consider to be a slip just makes it harder to sort the grain from the chaff. It is not my intent to minimize the seriousness of the GMO issue, just to point out something that I think is unproductive.
RE: Big Island *takes first step* in banning GMO's - rainyjim - 10-07-2013
"It is not my intent to minimize the seriousness of the GMO issue, just to point out something that I think is unproductive."
I agree, some people seem to confuse the poor state of our education system and therefore educated populace with their frustration on/in other issues. While they are not necessarily mutually exclusive the issue can still cause a lot of confusion - especially on message boards.
RE: Big Island *takes first step* in banning GMO's - wax - 10-07-2013
Rainbow papaya was developed by the USDA under lead of Dr. Dennis Gonsalves in Hilo. Testing of this product and all similar is very careful and very intense. Suggesting that there are essentially no regulations and no testing is counter productive to determining the truth of the situation and only creates another Bogey man to scare people. This is how the dark ages came about and we on this island seem to be heading back there.
RE: Big Island *takes first step* in banning GMO's - Bullwinkle - 10-07-2013
GMO like anything else has has upsides and downsides - its kind of cool that papaya culture on the islands can continue because a variety resistant to ring spot virus was developed
I am not so sure that I feel the same way about a corn variety that makes round up in its roots
Even less thrilled about a group of investors owning the patent on the worlds major potential food supply
Most of all, mono crops, scare the pants off me - relying on one or two varieties of GMO wheat will end up as a global nightmare if mother nature offers up a blight or insect that can take advantage of GMO wheat's lack of wild DNA or lack of genetic diversity
edit = sticky "o" "n" and "b" keys ....its always something
RE: Big Island *takes first step* in banning GMO's - PaulW - 10-07-2013
That is exactly what GM gives you - the ability to react to changing circumstances (e.g. a blight, invasive insect) much faster than Nature can.
RE: Big Island *takes first step* in banning GMO's - HawaiiTedd - 10-07-2013
Aaron titled this thread "Big Island bans GMOs", which is NOT true. Read the article yourself.
I do not get "excited" when people spread misinformation...like Aaron has done. I am more concerned about truth than excitement.
Now, Aaron back-pedals and says "our county officials have taken the first step in banning GMOs"...when he actually titled this topic "Big Island bans GMOs". See my issue here? Maybe Aaron should retitle this thread.
Truth is where it's at, and the spread of misinformation is what is "sad". Let's all be more careful about the information we spread.
PS... I may even be on Aaron's side of the GMO debate (or not), that is not my point here. The truth is.
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Originally posted by Aaron
I'm sorry you folks aren't more excited that Big Island is a slightly safer and environmentally friendly place since our county officials have taken the first step in banning GMOs. Sad.
Wa, I bought on a dusty road and expected someone else to pay for paving it already. Wa.
Living on the side of creation.