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RE: Homeless & crime here!!! - islandlvng - 11-20-2013
That area in Pahoa is a joke. Try going to the atm at FHB before it opens and step over drunks to get some money. Picked up payroll one morning at 10 instead of the usual afternoon time, and a woman was yelling, oxys for $20 to people as they passed by, while a younger kid was asking people if they wanted the "killa green". Had to park by BOH cause the cash and carry side was full of people drinking, smoking, and selling. What a joke.
10 am on a tuesday. LOL.
It is much worse than it ever was in the 80's 90's 00's. No question.
I have never had any problems, when face to face with them though, smiles and shakas, even a fist bump or pat on the shoulder and a howzit, and all is good however......
Most of them are thieves and druggies, sad but true and those of us who know them or know people who know them confirm it all the time. Police from Pahoa to Hilo know who these guys are, can't arrest them everyday for petty stuff. Gotta be caught in the act, which is hard to do.
Very sad to see Pahoa changing the way it has. Many old timers here feel the same way, sad. The anger left long ago.
RE: Homeless & crime here!!! - Guest - 11-20-2013
These characters in this area are being watched alright, They are being watched closely by our 14-19 year old keiki. They are being avoided by some woman and maybe elderly also?. The businesses there cant like what there seeing everyday. Lets see, the positives for these guys being there ARE??? Help me with this part if you could please. So maybe a few obvious cameras and two cops on horses would help clean that area up without having to force anyone to leave?. Why not now with the closing of cash-n-carry? To do this during the holiday season would be nice gesture from our multi-million dollar police station IN TOWN. Yes they would probably rather ticket us on our only road to and from work, but it would be nice to cash our checks. Gets me thinking too, Where do police officers cash there checks out here if they don't see this themselves?. The kids have eyes and do learn fast, lets make sure what were teaching them wont hurt them.
RE: Homeless & crime here!!! - unknownjulie - 11-20-2013
I have a few thoughts... Yes, I agree public restrooms would help quite a bit, and at least keep excrement off of the streets.
Homeless shelters are only open for limited hours. They are usually only open eve's and nights, and then close for the day. It is tricky to run them because there are numerous thefts etc that happen amongst the population utilizing them It is pretty much "predator and prey". There is the crimimal element and then there are the mentally ill people. It is hard to decifer who is who at times. The mentally ill are preyed on by the criminal-element homeless.
There could be some kind of mental health clinic set up to at least address the mentally ill and try and help them out, with counseling, medical care, and some kind of organized volunteer opportunities like taking care of the police horses- which is a great idea.
RE: Homeless & crime here!!! - rainyjim - 11-21-2013
someone brought up the idea of little mobile police 'booths' that could be put in 'problem' areas like this, i believe the individual saw this in action in Japan - anyone know about these?
RE: Homeless & crime here!!! - birdmove - 11-21-2013
Maybe Police on bicycles? Bicycles don't add to the poop situation like horses would.
Jon in Keaau/HPP
RE: Homeless & crime here!!! - ourdoc - 11-21-2013
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Originally posted by dakine
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Originally posted by Aaron
..There is no "Aloha" with these people..
that's certainly not a reason to abandon our aloha for them
Thank you for saying that. Some people do not understand that IS what Aloha is all about!
RE: Homeless & crime here!!! - csgray - 11-21-2013
I always thought it was about the aloha you put out, not the aloha you get.
I had a fellowship at Colonial Williamsburg this summer and one of the teachers in my group asked about the meaning of the word aloha. I tried to explain both the literal meanings of the word, and the subtler meanings in terms of how people interact. The only person who got what I was saying, out of about 12 teachers from all over the US, teaches in a tiny native village in the arctic circle where rugged individualists tend to die, because the climite is so unforgiving that people really have to rely on one another with total trust.
Carol
RE: Homeless & crime here!!! - Aaron - 11-21-2013
Lol, you can waste your "Aloha" on the trash. I'm more particular about where my energy goes; People who deserve it and need it, not people who leach off it.
Living on the side of creation.
RE: Homeless & crime here!!! - Adam-I-Am - 11-21-2013
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Originally posted by Obie
gypsy69
Why not go down there and invite these people to camp out on your property or maybe build a group home for them to live in ??
Our government is basically broke.How long can we keep borrowing money to care for the lazy dopers ????????
After I say this: "how you mentally feel about these people is, FOR SURE a measure of your Christianity," (you DO call yourself Christain, right?), I will get a stupid dumb reply about "what are you doing about the homeless, etc."
All I can say is you shouldn't call yourself a Christian. Coz you ain't. I'm a bad Christian myself, but I DO know the teachings of Christ were the core of that religion.
Trillions (not millions not billions) trillions spent on these damn meaningless wars and there are hundreds of thousands of homeless Americans, GOOD PEOPLE, living on the streets.
You CAN'T pick one homeless person (lazy or a drug dealer etc.) and use that one person to describe every homeless person. Doing that is ... well ... call it a sin.
Aloha is affection, peace, compassion and mercy.
The first step is greet and talk to a homeless person. Try it.
RE: Homeless & crime here!!! - Adam-I-Am - 11-21-2013
Robert:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mB2onhhb-jg