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RE: Poisoning our Environment? - TomK - 03-18-2016
Feel as though I've just watched a Monty Python episode after reading this thread. Not least because of the OP's wording. It was like reading one of those letters from Brigadier Arthur Gormanstrop (Mrs).
RE: Poisoning our Environment? - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 03-19-2016
Feel as though I've just watched a Monty Python episode
Or Miss Emily Litella with a responsible opposing viewpoint:
"What's all this talk about Poi Singing In Our Environment?"
http://www.hulu.com/watch/2364
"How we spend our days is, of course, how we spend our lives." -Annie Dillard
RE: Poisoning our Environment? - Midnight Rambler - 03-19-2016
It's not aerial spraying, it's aerial dropping of the bait pellets (the same kind you use in home bait stations) from a helicopter to reach remote and difficult-access areas. Also, one of the toxicants used for rats (not in the current DPEIS, which hopefully will be added during the drafting process) is cholecalciferol, better known as vitamin D3.
RE: Poisoning our Environment? - terracore - 03-19-2016
I've used cholecalciferol pellets to control mice and they work great. I've never seen it as an ingredient on the big rat bait blocks that go onto the wires in the bait stations. It's the only kind we want to use because the rats can only remove the bait from the station by eating it. We've tried most of the brands, the one that is currently working the best is the "just one bite II" brand. It's more expensive but one bait block kills more rats so in theory it's actually less expensive. Unfortunately while a single feeding will deliver a lethal dose it still takes 2-3 days for them to die so its not any more humane than the others. The cheapest way to buy it is the 8-pound multi-pack from Amazon. The last bait we used was a bromethalin based poison under the Tomcat brand. It's worthless. It might be an effective poison but rodents aren't attracted to the bait. It smells like candy instead of grains/peanut butter like the other types. They won't even eat if if I smear peanut butter on the blocks, a technique that has worked with other brands. I usually mix different types of bait blocks in the same stations to appeal to the most discriminating rat palette but the Tomcat bromethalin baits are a no-go.
RE: Poisoning our Environment? - PaulW - 03-20-2016
Speaking of invasive species:
http://abc7.com/news/screeching-tropical-frogs-invading-southern-california/1252178/
Hawaii's newest export product
RE: Poisoning our Environment? - viviansuet - 03-20-2016
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0269749114003078
RE: Poisoning our Environment? - viviansuet - 03-20-2016
http://pmep.cce.cornell.edu/profiles/rodent/rodent_M_Z/warfarin/warfarin_rer_0691.html
RE: Poisoning our Environment? - TomK - 03-20-2016
Is it too much to ask for people to give some context when they post links?
RE: Poisoning our Environment? - Guest - 03-20-2016
There are hawks and owls where I live. They do a great job keeping the rats down; I trap maybe 2 or 3 rats a year.
When these splendid predators are poisoned and gone, forever, then what? Perpetual poisoning?
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RE: Poisoning our Environment? - EightFingers - 03-21-2016
What's it going to do to well water?, the ocean?