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RE: Farmer's Market tarps gone - My 2 cents - 03-26-2018
Nobody wants to walk under those filthy canopies
Nobody? We must be talking about different places. Whenever I go to HFM there are so many people you can barely move around.
vendors can set up their own temp tarps
So no covered walkway and driplines everywhere. Yea, that's better.
RE: Farmer's Market tarps gone - kalakoa - 03-26-2018
http://www.hawaiitribune-herald.com/2018/03/26/hawaii-news/county-orders-hilo-farmers-market-to-remove-tarps/
The Hilo Farmers Market has been ordered to remove its tarps by the county for zoning and fire safety violations.
I guess I just don't understand how "zoning" works here: the property is commercial, which zoning explicitly allows a farmer's market (per 25-5-112(a)(28) or the equivalent section of 25-7-22 if the HFM is technically within the CDH boundary).
putting up a new structure in a special management zone
A hotel is probably the only thing that would be worth the cost of development, and hotel is a permitted use under the zoning.
RE: Farmer's Market tarps gone - Obie - 03-26-2018
More to the story here :
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/37811623/hilo-farmers-market-ordered-to-remove-tents-and-tarps
RE: Farmer's Market tarps gone - kalakoa - 03-26-2018
"I think the violation primarily, the most important one, is that he was putting up a permanent business for years and that is definitely a violation," said Kim.
For years. Decades, even.
No one can predict the sudden enforcement!
RE: Farmer's Market tarps gone - Tink - 03-26-2018
Appears he didn't "scratch the right back".
Community begins with Aloha
RE: Farmer's Market tarps gone - Rob Tucker - 03-26-2018
Just looks to me like more evidence of the county being the enemy of business on the island. They want you to pay your taxes but don't give a damn if you can make a living beyond that. By the county, of the county and for the county.
RE: Farmer's Market tarps gone - kalakoa - 03-26-2018
county being the enemy of business on the island
Not just "the enemy", but "actively hostile" -- unless your business is the right kind of "local", of course.
The part that really bugs me is: constant whinging from County about how they just can't afford this, need more staffing for that, etc -- yet it's that same County that does it's very best to prevent economic growth.
RE: Farmer's Market tarps gone - snorkle - 03-26-2018
The space would be much more attractive with walkways, individual tents, and landscaped with large potted plants(that could be offered for sale).
These minimal changes would bring the venue up to County standards and have a minimal impact on vendors(who could use their pop-ups elsewhere).
The one benefit of the current set up is how nice it makes the bus station look.
RE: Farmer's Market tarps gone - leilanidude - 03-26-2018
The space would be much more attractive with walkways, individual tents, and landscaped with large potted plants(that could be offered for sale).
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Yes to more attractive.
How are a bunch of NYLON tents to be safer than what was already there, for fire purposes?
RE: Farmer's Market tarps gone - MarkD - 03-26-2018
From Kapoho Joe: "Whatever your flimsy excuse is to type...the Nazi salute, it was not appreciated. Don't bother responding to me, your kind is dead to me."
Sheesh, lighten up. It was hyperbole. And not even directed at you.
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A roof over the main market area is indeed needed. The building will much help its erection. What about across the street? The two tent areas are 3x that of the main market. It's a much bigger task. Where is the money going to come from for meeting zoning/building requirements across the street? Small time market vending is not a rich business that can support expensive improvements.
Unless all 3 areas are brought back to full use, the vibrant HFM area as we know it will disappear.
Story: "Hawaii County officials (cited)...fire safety... violations."
Fire risk? The two sites are completely out in the open, with ample evacuation access. What an exaggerated safety concern. Could someone torch the tents at night? Sure. They could also set fire to the wooden dive shop next door.