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RE: Homeless & crime here!!! - alaskyn66 - 11-24-2013
Lmao, I haven't had this much fun since the hogs ate my little brother...
Half of those Craig's list jobs are scams, 2k
Oh this is good... Lol.
RE: Homeless & crime here!!! - Frank - 11-24-2013
"STEM jobs will continue to expand as the U.S. economy recovers from the Great Recession. The U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics estimates that at least 8,654,000 U.S. STEM jobs will exist in 2018."
It's estimated that Hawaii will have 29,000 of those positions available in the entire state. Big Island portion, who knows?
29,000 jobs, in all stem disciplines, for all islands, over the next 5 years...jobs which will be attractive to graduates from all over the world, not just to Hawaii born and raised...??...above taken from
http://www.stemconnector.org/sites/default/files/store/STEM-Students-STEM-Jobs-Executive-Summary.pdf
RE: Homeless & crime here!!! - Derrick Barnicoat - 11-24-2013
quote:
Originally posted by dragon2k
Hey man, if you can't find a job here - move! Don't suck off the system like a leach. Have some self respect and support your family yourself.
Nothing left to do but
Smile
Smile
Smile
Yeah! Take that Mitt Romney, Trump and Koch bros!
Now go pay your taxes! Ya leaches!
RE: Homeless & crime here!!! - unknownjulie - 11-25-2013
I have 2 STEM bachelor degrees and part of a masters in something else. I work 60 hours per week and take home about 1900 per month from a State Job. I do not even buy health insurance for my 3 kids (under their dad) or I would be taking home 600 less per month. I do not consider this a high wage.
RE: Homeless & crime here!!! - Guest - 11-25-2013
I currently live in South Florida, where our climate is very similar, and because of that our homeless is also abundant.
Most of our homeless here are panhandlers and beggars, on every street corner and highway exit, every gas station begging for money.
I rarely here of them being criminals (as far as theft and robberies), why do you think your homeless on the BI are more prone to commit crime ?
Also, Ive read a lot on here about robberies...are these home robberies ? Don't you have a gate and a gun ?
I live in what some would call a so-so neighborhood (I bought my house here in FL for 125K last year) Most of my neighborhood is black or Spanish, but ive never had any problems and I have a shiny loaded friend in my drawer if someone did decide to come in my home.
Why such trouble on the BI >?
RE: Homeless & crime here!!! - kalakoa - 11-25-2013
Oahu is home to 80% of the State population. Assuming jobs follow, that means only 5800 STEM jobs for the outer islands combined; most of those jobs will be with Monsanto (or whatever they're calling themselves lately) and a small few will be with one of the Big Island telescope operations.
As for the "abundance" of Craigslist jobs ... I spent 2-3 years applying for anything that remotely resembled a technical role, and this is what I found:
- these "jobs" are almost always part-time
- these "jobs" are sometimes not even on the Big Island
- the word "technician" means "independent contractor paid per-incident"
- the word "engineer" means "have advanced degree and be under 30"
- the word "webmaster" (or equivalent) is at best "part-time minimum-wage", but sometimes it's an "internship"
In every single case, my extensive real-world experience makes me "overqualified" (translation: over 30), even when I am willing to commute 2h each way to do the work of 3 people while being paid "below the median".
Following D2K's logic, this is all my "fault" for choosing to live somewhere that has no jobs... if I really want to work in tech support, I should move to a center of employment, like India.
RE: Homeless & crime here!!! - Bullwinkle - 11-25-2013
Or go it alone? Why cant the east side be a call center for tech support - one upside to a dead economy - shop rent dirt cheap.
Jobs and Hawaii have always been tough in my impression. Even during the "good times" back on Maui ten plus years ago. Lots of folk seemed to work 2 jobs, many of the small business owners having two gigs. Folks in the trades had long breaks ... only way to do it was to be a trust fund baby it seemed.
Maui land and pineapple employees on a roller coaster for years
RE: Homeless & crime here!!! - seekir - 11-25-2013
Originally posted by: HereOnThePrimalEdge
quote:
A good, fast cleaner can make $15 an hour, a competent yard worker can make $20 an hour, or more.
If you're talking about self-employed workers who have no workman's comp, health insurance, retirement, or other benefits, those numbers aren't great.
Originally posted by: dragon2k
quote:
Why is post secondary education not a priority for some people?
Good paying jobs do exist for those who chose a college education in the right field.
As others have noted in the thread, many with degrees are not finding work. In Korea and other asian nations where degrees are highly sought after and higher education has been pushed as a kind of panacea, graduate unemployment is epidemic, and resumés pile up in corporate HR offices while bewildered young graduates wonder why their efforts have not been rewarded as anticipated. The same phenomenon is happening in the U.S. to a considerable extent.
Most economies are service-occupation based, and "educated" individuals with college backgrounds naturally compose a smaller segment of the workforce at large. I think the notion that universal college education is a good thing is a bit flawed, and technical and trade skills are not valued or granted sufficient esteem/compensation. Any time spent on a farm or an Island resort reveals that latin Americans, Filipinos, Samoans, and other immigrants are filling the lowest paying jobs in our workforce. Jobs that probably aren't attractive to U.S. citizens who view them as unacceptable. This is at least partly because our tendency is to offer those who take them low status and less money than they ought to earn for their difficult labor. This scheme, because the foreigners who take these jobs are raising "American" children who adopt our disdain for working people seems destined to reach a crisis.
Working folks should have a reasonable share of the fruits their work is instrumental in producing. In the modern U.S. economy I would argue they do not.
RE: Homeless & crime here!!! - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 11-25-2013
quote:I agree with you, the numbers aren't great. But it's a start. There are jobs available in Puna for people who want to do them, and those lower paying jobs can lead to something better. When I was younger I worked at a Dairy Queen, I painted houses in the summer, I was a janitor, and yes, I mowed lawns for a while. Did I make a lot of money? No. Am I working at any of those jobs now? No. Any starting point is a good starting point.
Originally posted by seekir
Originally posted by: HereOnThePrimalEdgequote:If you're talking about self-employed workers who have no workman's comp, health insurance, retirement, or other benefits, those numbers aren't great.
A good, fast cleaner can make $15 an hour, a competent yard worker can make $20 an hour, or more.
RE: Homeless & crime here!!! - unknownjulie - 11-26-2013
Kalakoa, I'd suggest writing several different resumes. That's what I do. I have a few different careers I can work in, and I dont really mention all the qualifications that I have, until after I'm hired.