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RE: Farmer's Market tarps gone - BillyB - 03-27-2018
Tax Info FYI:
HILO FARMER'S MARKET LLC Fee Owner
http://qpublic9.qpublic.net/hi_hawaii_display.php?county=hi_hawaii&KEY=230080200000
http://qpublic9.qpublic.net/hi_hawaii_display.php?county=hi_hawaii&KEY=230090110000
http://qpublic9.qpublic.net/hi_hawaii_display.php?county=hi_hawaii&KEY=230090400000
IIDA,YASUMI
2-12-4 HANASAKI
NARASHINO-SHI CHIBA
JAPAN
275-0013
http://qpublic9.qpublic.net/hi_hawaii_display.php?county=hi_hawaii&KEY=230090200000
http://qpublic9.qpublic.net/hi_hawaii_display.php?county=hi_hawaii&KEY=230090220000
RE: Farmer's Market tarps gone - Eric1600 - 03-27-2018
Putting up your own tent is not much of an option really. When it's raining all those gaps between tents makes it barely manageable. Unless they are allowed to use the pipes that are still there and put up full tarps again. Using individual popup tents is going to just let everything and everyone get wet. I understand wanting to enforce zoning rules that have been somewhat ignored, but it's really going to hurt the city in the long run.
With the 10 foot setbacks though, there's hardly any space left for the market.
He said the county issued notices of violations and gave him only five days to rectify the situation, which involves violations of the 10-foot setback required from the sidewalks on Kamehameha Avenue and Mamo Street, as well as from the wall of Reuben’s Mexican Restaurant.
Other violations included the tarps and tents themselves, an unpermitted extension cord and a string of overhead lights, De La Cruz said.
http://www.hawaiitribune-herald.com/2018/03/27/hawaii-news/county-gets-tough-after-iconic-hilo-farmers-market-fails-to-fix-code-violations/
RE: Farmer's Market tarps gone - Rob Tucker - 03-27-2018
I'm not aware of any ten foot set backs downtown. All those commercial lots are built property line to property line.
RE: Farmer's Market tarps gone - kalakoa - 03-27-2018
Other interesting tidbits from today's fine article:
De La Cruz called the situation "a little frustrating."
"We're trying to work through it in good faith with these three departments here," he said. "On one hand, one's giving me the order to pay up fines; the other one's requesting more information on my application that they got back in June."
It took 9 months to request more information?
Okabe said County Councilman Aaron Chung, who represents the district, asked if county property could be used for a market.
"We are looking at another site … to provide another avenue to give these vendors an opportunity … in downtown Hilo," Okabe said. "… But the only property we have in this area is the (Mooheau Park) bandstand or the county parking lot across the street."
Really? Why would the market have to move to County property?
The vendor questioned the timing, a week prior to the Merrie Monarch Festival, Hilo's busiest week of the year.
What an ... amazing coincidence.
RE: Farmer's Market tarps gone - MarkD - 03-27-2018
Does anyone have info about the 2 properties across the street? Are they owned by DeLaCruz also? Several dozen vendors ranging from shirt sellers to masseuses operate there.
They contribute much to ambiance of the entire area. Our tourist visitors spend as much time buying gift items as they do in buying produce.
If the main Farmers Market lot is upgraded with a new roof (which can be attached to the adjacent building), but the area across the street is not upgraded and vendors fade away, the loss will be much noticed. The entire HFM is a big visitor draw, arguably at the top of East Hawaii's To Do List.
Eric1600: "Putting up your own tent is not much of an option really. When it's raining all those gaps between tents makes it barely manageable."
As yesterday's rain in Hilo will attest....
RE: Farmer's Market tarps gone - punaticbychoice - 03-27-2018
I will make no excuses or justifications for an incompetent and corrupt Hawaii County Government.
It is to be hoped that any investigation of OHA continues into ALL of the various, County governments,
and above all into the State of Hawaii Government.
This is all just the equivalent of one big set of RICO cases.
Some ambitious Federal Prosecutor could make their career here.
RE: Farmer's Market tarps gone - Carey - 03-27-2018
Everyone must realize that the 200+ vendors that pay to operate at the Hilo Farmers Market are paying one of the highest rent fees, the landowner is collecting THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS EVERY WEEK!
for over 33 years
That is a lot of money to provide leaky poly tarps on rusty poles & wet pothole filled gravel
Those who compare it to Maku`u Market... Maku`u provides parking, restrooms, cultural presentations.... & have done so even before they charged for parking. They are investing in their property at a higher rate than Hilo Farmers Market has in the last 33 years...
RE: Farmer's Market tarps gone - My 2 cents - 03-27-2018
Does anyone have info about the 2 properties across the street? Are they owned by DeLaCruz also?
BillyB posted this:
HILO FARMER'S MARKET LLC Fee Owner
http://qpublic9.qpublic.net/hi_hawaii_display.php?county=hi_hawaii&KEY=230080200000
http://qpublic9.qpublic.net/hi_hawaii_display.php?county=hi_hawaii&KEY=230090110000
http://qpublic9.qpublic.net/hi_hawaii_display.php?county=hi_hawaii&KEY=230090400000
IIDA,YASUMI
2-12-4 HANASAKI
NARASHINO-SHI CHIBA
JAPAN
275-0013
http://qpublic9.qpublic.net/hi_hawaii_display.php?county=hi_hawaii&KEY=230090200000
http://qpublic9.qpublic.net/hi_hawaii_display.php?county=hi_hawaii&KEY=230090220000
Showing a total of 5 properties, 2 of which have a Japanese owner. Interesting, those 2 properties pay no tax. $0.00
RE: Farmer's Market tarps gone - kalakoa - 03-27-2018
Interesting, those 2 properties pay no tax. $0.00
They are considered a "road"... privately owned... open to the public...
RE: Farmer's Market tarps gone - HighLow - 03-27-2018
Wow, there is a lot going on here. Let's take a look:
The farmers market property next to Reuben’s Mexican Restaurant has 61.26 feet of frontage on Kamehameha, 146.62 feet of frontage on Mamo st and 56 feet of frontage on Punahoa st and 133.75 feet against Reuben's building.
So if you have 10 foot setbacks on Kamehameha, Mamo and Reuben's building, then you only have about 40 feet by 126 feet of usable space.
The pop up tents are 10x10 so you could have 3 long rows of 12 pop up tents with 1st and 2nd long rows back to back and then an aisle and then the final 3rd row of pop up tents to fit the narrow 40 foot width due to the setback requirement. So a total of only 36 vendor spaces available on this side of the street. Not sure how big the property is across Mamo st.
It does seem odd to have 10 foot set backs when Reubens all the way past the S. Hata building are all built right to the edge of the property line. Maybe they are grandfathered in or maybe Mr. De La Cruz is getting the "Rob Tucker" treatment from the building dept employees where they kind of make things up depending on how they feel at the time.