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RE: Mayor looking at closing beaches. - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 08-25-2021
Meanwhile, over on Maui, their mayor has proposed what seems like some reasonable requests given the current situation. Of course a good portion of the public has to go along with the voluntary nature of the proposal, and agree with the definition of non-essential activities.
Maui Mayor Michael Victorino is asking residents and visitors to Maui County to voluntarily curb non-essential activities including gatherings for 21 days.
A provision for a health pass.
More limits on gathering sizes.
work from home provision
restricting activities to essential items.
visitors remain at their hotel properties
refrain from visiting remote areas
reduce risky activities.
https://mauinow.com/2021/08/24/breaking-maui-mayor-asks-for-voluntary-21-day-rest-from-non-essential-activity/
RE: Mayor looking at closing beaches. - AaronM - 08-25-2021
Temporary 21 day quarantine sounds reasonable.
'Health Pass' in order to go shopping is government overreach.
Private businesses already have the right to refuse service to the unvaccinated if they choose to.
RE: Mayor looking at closing beaches. - kalakoa - 08-25-2021
Private businesses already have the right to refuse service to the unvaccinated if they choose to.
Private businesses don't have the courage to turn away business; a government requirement provides cover.
RE: Mayor looking at closing beaches. - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 08-25-2021
Private businesses already have the right to refuse service to the unvaccinated
...
Private businesses don't have the courage to turn away business
And some individuals don't understand the term "voluntarily curb non-essential activities" or the difference between "vaccinated and vaccinated" until after those who are walking human variant carriers spread COVID-XYZ all around, right before they find they need a bed in the ICU.
RE: Mayor looking at closing beaches. - MyManao - 08-26-2021
(08-25-2021, 08:52 PM)AaronM Wrote: 'Health Pass' in order to go shopping is government overreach.
Why? Why should the people that are vaccinated have to interact with those that are not? Especially when doing so is putting their health in danger. The unvax'd are vectors of disease, why would we knowingly welcome them into our stores if we don't have to?
Nah, let them get some good sumaritain to do their shopping for them. That's what the elderly have had to do from the get go. Don't you think it's about time those that do the bitching carry their own weight? If not, why? What excuse to you have to offer that we all live with the unvax'd Albatros around our neck?
After all, this entire surge is their doing. Way should we cater to them at all?
RE: Mayor looking at closing beaches. - kalakoa - 08-26-2021
Way should we cater to them at all?
Rights, freedoms, and catering to the lowest common denominator. It's just how things are.
RE: Mayor looking at closing beaches. - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 08-27-2021
County of Hawaii COVID Rules (as of 8/25/2021)
SOCIAL GATHERING LIMITS:
- Outdoor = maximum of 10 individuals
- Indoor = maximum of 10 individuals
- Members of a single residential or family unit who share the same address are not restricted.
MASK MANDATE:
- Indoor = required
- Outdoor = required in crowded settings (i.e., areas with more than 10 persons and where six feet of social distancing cannot be maintained)
COUNTY PARKS AND RECREATIONAL FACILITIES:
- All County of Hawai'i parks and recreational facilities are open unless otherwise stated.
- All parks pavilions are closed.
- Canopies and pop-up tents are prohibited.
Full rules:
https://coronavirus-response-county-of-hawaii-hawaiicountygis.hub.arcgis.com
RE: Mayor looking at closing beaches. - kalianna - 08-27-2021
I'm glad he had the good sense not to close the beaches. Yet.
RE: Mayor looking at closing beaches. - ktm - 08-27-2021
Roth wanted to close beaches but Ige did not approve it. Yet.......
RE: Mayor looking at closing beaches. - Kimo1967 - 08-30-2021
(08-26-2021, 01:03 AM)MyManao Wrote:It's a great question. Although I've heard thinkers who flip the script and would say 1) it's not "our store" it's the business owner's store and it is the business owner's call whom to cater to. In that equation it's the folks who are trying to avoid other folks, that should probably find someone to do their shopping.(08-25-2021, 08:52 PM)AaronM Wrote: 'Health Pass' in order to go shopping is government overreach.
Why? Why should the people that are vaccinated have to interact with those that are not? Especially when doing so is putting their health in danger. The unvax'd are vectors of disease, why would we knowingly welcome them into our stores if we don't have to?
Nah, let them get some good sumaritain to do their shopping for them. That's what the elderly have had to do from the get go. Don't you think it's about time those that do the bitching carry their own weight? If not, why? What excuse to you have to offer that we all live with the unvax'd Albatros around our neck?
After all, this entire surge is their doing. Way should we cater to them at all?