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RE: TMT - Contested Case Hearing Status - Hilo - punaticbychoice - 12-01-2016
kalakoa:
Good question.
Maybe the Kingdom can be reinstated and we can find out?
RE: TMT - Contested Case Hearing Status - Hilo - Guest - 12-01-2016
Where else on earth can people who never ran for office, hold no elected position, have no measurable electoral presence beyond the ability to fill a room or a road with vagrants, drive an entire society off a cliff?
Makes you proud, yeah brah?
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You can't fix Samsara.
RE: TMT - Contested Case Hearing Status - Hilo - Tink - 12-01-2016
If it becomes a "Kingdom", will reparations be available to the "Haole" for loss of property, a "sacred site" to them? Will the "Kingdom" have welfare and EBT to continue the lifestyle many are accustomed to? Perhaps one should live somewhere like the Republic of Kiribati for a year to see what a sovereign state is really like before making such requests. I say this as one "has to be careful what they ask for", and fully realize what the final result could be, for there would be no turning back.
Community begins with Aloha
RE: TMT - Contested Case Hearing Status - Hilo - punaticbychoice - 12-01-2016
Tink:
The fantasy is as I understand it: "Rent from the US for the military bases, and reparations from the US."
I won't comment.
RE: TMT - Contested Case Hearing Status - Hilo - leilanidude - 12-01-2016
Reparations should simply be the removal of all US gov't paid infrastructure, back to bare land, followed by, "See ya later."
RE: TMT - Contested Case Hearing Status - Hilo - kalakoa - 12-01-2016
removal of all US gov't paid infrastructure
Without which, Walmart (et al) will revert their big-boxes to bare land, too.
That's okay, though, the protectors can just build some farms, all self-sufficient and sustainable, maybe some hunting and gathering, clubs, loincloth, etc.
RE: TMT - Contested Case Hearing Status - Hilo - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 12-01-2016
the removal of all US gov't paid infrastructure, back to bare land
Which returns us to my unanswered question from a few days ago. Without infrastructure, refined gasoline, and vehicles powered by internal combustion engines, how did (and how will) Hawaiians transport departed family members 13,000 feet up the slopes of Mauna Kea to place them in a traditional burial ahu, in their traditional burial grounds on top of the mountain, which Protectors have said was a part of their cultural practice?
RE: TMT - Contested Case Hearing Status - Hilo - TomK - 12-01-2016
Try getting to the summit of Mauna Kea in the next few days without a snow clearing crew funded by the observatories.
RE: TMT - Contested Case Hearing Status - Hilo - Guest - 12-03-2016
The once endangered Wekiu bugs are probably enjoying the break in summit activity and the chance to grind in peace. The water aquifer from "OUR" Mauna Kea may have needed this type of heavy snow fall for years to help replenish or clean. I hope accidents like this one are avoided or prevented in the future rather than repeated. jmo
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/30399540/red-hill-water-contamination
This video from bigislandvideo caught my attention this morning. I really liked how our hilo rep Tulsi Gabbard brought up the Red Hill water contamination accident here in Hawaii and the importance of protecting water sources for all today.
http://www.bigislandvideonews.com/2016/12/01/video-tulsi-gabbard-tells-obama-to-halt-dakota-access-pipeline/
Tulsi Gabbard will be in Standing Rock tomorrow and hopefully president of the United states of America 8 years later. jmo
RE: TMT - Contested Case Hearing Status - Hilo - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 12-03-2016
Red Hill water contamination
During WWII the mountains ringing Hickam & Pearl Harbor on Oahu were excavated and used as fuel and munitions storage facilities. (Hopefully planners built the deep caverns into separate mountains designated for fuel and another for munitions, or at least divided the two into separate areas.) Those storage facilities are still in existence.
Closer to home, there are thousands of holes dug into the ground all over Hawaii Island, directly over the water table, and every day millions of gallons of contaminated water runs into them and leaks straight into our water supply through cracks, fissures, tubes, and fractures in the lava.
The water is filled with bacterial, viral, and other waste debris from human residents, environmentally dangerous household products, and toxic chemicals such as bleach.
Take a trip to the grocery store, Walmart, Target, or Home Depot. Look at the aisles and aisles of "cleaning" products in each store. Read a few of their labels. Do you see anything in small print that reads: "WARNING?"
And yet 200,000 people on this island pour these items literally straight into the earth and water table, with only a brief side trip through the sink, shower, and toilet.
This isn't a system breakdown that might occur under unexpected circumstances. Our Hawaiian leakage takes place 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, every year. Intentionally. Where's the outrage?