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RE: TMT - Contested Case Hearing Status - Hilo - Guest - 12-27-2016
quote:IMHO, they should just brush all these creeps down the hill, build the telescope and advance the human condition, through exploration and academics of outer space. Enough of the backward ones getting in the way of the ones moving humanity forward.
Originally posted by alaskyn66
How many people actually go up to the white mountain to pray anyway.10, 50 , 100 people. Where did they get their ali'i qualifications from.. is there some sort of application you fill out... or is it ' I just feel I'm better than you.. so I'm gonna.
That's one part of this I don't understand.
Another part of me says.. if the gods didn't want development up there.. they would take care of the problem..
RE: TMT - Contested Case Hearing Status - Hilo - leilanidude - 12-27-2016
How many people actually go up to the white mountain to pray anyway.10, 50 , 100 people. Where did they get their ali'i qualifications from.. is there some sort of application you fill out... or is it ' I just feel I'm better than you.. so I'm gonna.
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I don't understand it either since none except ali'i were allowed up in the past. They seem to make up the rules as they go and everyone else is supposed to go along with the new, made-up rules.
RE: TMT - Contested Case Hearing Status - Hilo - Guest - 12-27-2016
Great video and story of the Big Islands history with some Hawaiian culture here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xow0SP8llHc
Interesting to see how important the Taro plant and Ohia tree has been for the Big island and the Hawaiians.
Did The first Polynesians follow the sea birds OR the stars in discovering these islands?
RE: TMT - Contested Case Hearing Status - Hilo - kalakoa - 12-27-2016
Here's more "actual desecration" which manages not to attract any protest:
http://www.hawaiitribune-herald.com/news/local-news/sewage-spill-puhi-bay
Even if they "fix" the leak, it's still sewage dumped into the ocean. As a matter of course.
RE: TMT - Contested Case Hearing Status - Hilo - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 12-27-2016
So sewage will leak & flow into Puhi Bay, the pipe not to be repaired "until spring" which could mean what? Two, three, even four months? Wasn't there some recent discussion about Water Protectors flying in from Standing Rock to protest the Mauna Kea watershed pollution by a zero-waste TMT, possibly misinformed like Rick in the movie Casablanca who came for the waters, not realizing it was smack dab in the desert?
As long as Water Protectors are out & about though, couldn't they be informed about the official county signs marking the exact location of real pollution in Puhi Bay? And then they in turn could protect some water that could use protecting, right where X marks the spot.
"One may pretend knowledge of philosophy more successfully than that of arithmetic." -Last Aphorisms (or how about, one may pretend knowledge with an opinion more successfully than with facts)
RE: TMT - Contested Case Hearing Status - Hilo - alaskyn66 - 12-28-2016
Disgusting.. people fish all around that area. How long has it been leaking.
RE: TMT - Contested Case Hearing Status - Hilo - punaticbychoice - 12-28-2016
gypsy69:
You have still never answered why you are opposed to TMT.
In the face of all the discussion here you still haven't.
And yes, a simple, clear answer is required- now.
RE: TMT - Contested Case Hearing Status - Hilo - kalakoa - 12-28-2016
How long has it been leaking.
It's an "outfall pipe", meaning it leaks by design, but it's "health risk" now that it's leaking closer to shore where people might swim.
Don't let mere facts get in the way of TMT outrage, though.
RE: TMT - Contested Case Hearing Status - Hilo - Guest - 12-29-2016
quote:Every animal in the ocean, poops directly into the ocean, yet it seems like man-poop is the only one anybody cares about. Is there any real difference, between a 350# Seal pooping or a whale weighing tons pooping, and a person pooping?
Originally posted by alaskyn66
Disgusting.. people fish all around that area. How long has it been leaking.
RE: TMT - Contested Case Hearing Status - Hilo - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 12-29-2016
Is there any real difference, between a 350# Seal pooping or a whale weighing tons pooping, and a person pooping?
No.
But there is a difference between 1 or 5 seals & whales going where nature calls, and 10,000 or 100,000 people doing the same thing. Outhouses had been legal, even environmentally appropriate when they were 2 or 3 miles apart.
The problem is quantity, not quality.
"One may pretend knowledge of philosophy more successfully than that of arithmetic." -Last Aphorisms (or how about, one may pretend knowledge with an opinion more successfully than with facts)