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RE: Bringing Firearms When Moving to B.I. - Guest - 05-08-2012
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Originally posted by dwedeking
Gun registration is on the rise in Hawaii - http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/147841095.html?id=147841095 as it is everywhere in the US (Rugers is at capacity for orders and not taking anymore this year).
With 36 thousand guns having been registered in 2010, I believe that means that there will be 36 thousands robberies with a struggle resulting in an armed robber and a subsequent homicide. So 36 thousand people will be murdered this year in Hawaii, don't worry I did the math logically.
“Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms.”
-Ron Paul
RE: Bringing Firearms When Moving to B.I. - rbrgs - 05-08-2012
To answer the question that the OP asked, yes, all three of those firearms are perfectly legal to own in Hawaii, just register them when you get here. AKs and ARs are legal, too, and the magazine capacity limit only applies to pistols.
For a bit of a reality check, folks might want to stick their heads into J Hara's and see what's on the shelf.
Oh, and that figure on the # of households with guns is total BS. I assume the researchers were TRYING to get the lowest # possible, 'cause cold calling folks and asking them on the phone is a really bad way to do reliable research. My gut feeling is that around half of the households in Hawaii have guns; in rural Puna, it probably approaches 90%.
Why don't all the anti-gun zealots have a sign in their yard saying "this is a gun free home"? 'Cause if they did, the criminal would know who to pick on...
RE: Bringing Firearms When Moving to B.I. - Kelena - 05-08-2012
The main means of defense I choose for my home is the police. If I heard a noise at my window, the first thing I would reach for is a phone, and not a gun. That would be the second thing. I support my local police and am willing to pay for a more numerous force. Nutjob right wingers want to privatize everything including the police force. They want each man to be his own police force. They want each family to pay for the best private school they can afford, using taxpayer funded vouchers to pay for it, of course. They want Amazon.com to be your library. In other words, they want no contributions to the "commonweal" -- no contributions to the common good. Didn't pay your local privatized fire department? Then we watch your house burn down with all your dogs and cats in it. If you lose a child, we may have a pancake breakfast to pay for funeral expenses. Pancake breakfasts are also how we provide health care if a member of your family gets an expensive illness.
The expensive illness our country is suffering from is this Ayn Rand/Mark-of-Cain notion that we are NOT our brother's keeper and that we must instead look at everything through the lens of self-interest, which, when taken to its extreme results in something that is NOT in our self-interest: a society where each man is an island, and no one feels a larger responsibility to the community -- a society where we say, as Cain did, "I have no flaming idea where Abel is, God. What am I, my brother's keeper or something???!!!!". When every American harbors multiple guns, a more violent society results. Americans can't handle guns. We've proven it time and time again. The Swiss all have guns but they don't murder each other. It's us. We can't handle it.
The larger point here is that from the standpoint of violence, other than domestic violence, Hawaii is a remarkably peaceable state. It is peaceable in part because crazy people, like the one who shot Gabrielle Gifford, don't have free and easy access to guns, especially those that can fire off multiple rounds (more than would ever be needed to kill a pig). Our crazy people just hang out harmlessly at the Cash & Carry, or in one memorable instance for me, they run up to you with a ukulele and insist on jamming with you. It is peaceable as well because fewer people look at guns as a form of recreation, other than for hunting. There is a sort of equilibrium here that avoids extremes in anything other than surfing. This would include feteshizing guns the way a dowager does dildoes. Feteshizing guns is as American as a frozen Mrs. Smith's apple pie. But it is a form of behavior that is at odds with the reason that many people come to Hawaii: to escape the mainland and its madness.
I even regret bringing my flute. It disturbs the peace.
As for relocating guns, I would only bring what I need to kill a pig, if you can bring yourself to do such a thing. And just accept that because you contemplate moving to a blue state, that some things are just not as welcome here as they may be where you came from -- it would sort of be like me walking in downtown Charlotte holdings hands with my (so far imaginary) boyfriend. I could probably do it, but I would open myself up to scorn.
RE: Bringing Firearms When Moving to B.I. - Guest - 05-08-2012
Yes! Let the collectivism flow freely from your well intentioned soul!
“Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms.”
-Ron Paul
RE: Bringing Firearms When Moving to B.I. - PaulW - 05-08-2012
If all the guns-no-thanks people had such signs in their yards then no sign = guns present. Which do you think would attract more attention from the burglars?
RE: Bringing Firearms When Moving to B.I. - Guest - 05-08-2012
Obviously the ones without signs, the burglars would break in steal their guns and use it to kill somebody, if not the original gun owner themselves.(most likely male and with a small *****.)
“Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms.”
-Ron Paul
RE: Bringing Firearms When Moving to B.I. - csgray - 05-08-2012
5 pages of comments and not a word from the OP after the first post. Either they were scared off by the rhetoric on all sides, or we've been trolled.
Carol
RE: Bringing Firearms When Moving to B.I. - dmbwest - 05-08-2012
No thanks or thanks, guns gotta be an attraction to burgulars IMO. Signs up ? When you not there, they gonna be.
aloha,
pog
RE: Bringing Firearms When Moving to B.I. - dmbwest - 05-08-2012
Nah Carol,
These people are used to reading this kine stuff.
These threads are always 'popcorn' reads.
aloha,
pog
RE: Bringing Firearms When Moving to B.I. - Guest - 05-08-2012
Who are "These people"?
“Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms.”
-Ron Paul