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RE: county inspectors used for harassment - rainyjim - 04-26-2015
Takeaway message:
Putting personal information on the interwebs is just not very smart.
RE: county inspectors used for harassment - kalakoa - 04-27-2015
Are some codes more enforceable than others?
Yes.
Noooo "it apparently does" NOT mean they will continue to let you slide for years.
That depends entirely on who "you" are.
Leilani for example has very strict guidelines that are written into the contracts.
Again: subdivision CC&R cannot override Code, so these restrictions are "in addition to", not "instead of" the County requirements.
If the county has decided to stop selling these estates as homesteads, and all that people assume from that title, than estate agents and the public need to be told of the new enforceable codes.
1. These "estates" are technically "farm lots" which are allowed a "primary dwelling" by right; this "dwelling" must comply with all other relevant Code, regardless of the zoning or lack of infrastructure.
2. The Code is not "new", even if the enforcement is.
3. An open building permit grants County officials additional rights of entry to investigate compliance with that permit. Where no permits are filed, County still has these rights of entry, but there is a different burden of proof, because they do not have the "invitation" created by an open permit.
refused to follow the county rules on what may or may not be built on their property
There are many kinds of "unpermittedness" and they are not equivalent nor are they all automatically "bad". I've seen beautiful unpermitted homes that exceed all Code requirements, and I've seen unlivable shacks that "must be okay" because some inspector finaled them.
RE: county inspectors used for harassment - birchl - 04-27-2015
the idea that an assessor might have reported me for living there is also BS. i have already been assessed as a resident. quite the opposite in fact to what is purported above. rates are REDUCED for occupied land. (and no i was not directly rude to them, any more than they were to me). i do not 'cheat'.
trolls aside - (please keep your poison to your own threads),
rainyjim - i am aware that publicizing this is 'not a good idea'. neither is 'consent by silence'. people are genuinely to frightened to complain about this. i am not.
kalakoa - the subdivision cc&r was simply an example of the fact that precise information on what can or cannot be built is not impossible to include in sales contracts. (if thats what the county wants).
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RE: county inspectors used for harassment - 2bad4u - 04-27-2015
You obviously see yourself as far more superior and powerful than you are. Rest assured your arrogant demands mean nothing to me. Its not your choice where I post. By putting your personal problems online what did you expect ? Did you assume everyone would jump at the opportunity you are allowing them to join your witch hunt ? Really ?...your attitude is not only narcissistic but unrealistic and annoying.
Tell you what....refrain yourself from bashing anyone that displays common sense and I will refrain myself from responding. You are incredibly hostile and nasty to those who don't see things your way.
People posting here have attempted civility. You just won't have it. You'd receive more respect if you gave it.
RE: county inspectors used for harassment - justthefacts - 04-27-2015
my previous question
Posted - 04/26/2015 :
why do you think the board should fight for your personal situation? and why do you think Hawaiian acres is exempt from any laws? are you suggesting that the acres is an entity on its own, not part of Hawaii county ?
and i dont think you are correct in stating taxes go down with occupied land, you are taxed on your structures, and additions. and there has been tax assessor's checking various properties . some people have claimed ag business for tax breaks and that is something the tax office is cracking down on.
troll ?? who is trolling here, no one you posted your life story and people are responding, what did you think was going to happen.
RE: county inspectors used for harassment - kalakoa - 04-27-2015
people are genuinely to frightened to complain about this.
Yes, that's basically how Puna works. Mind your own business and/or be a "good neighbor", rules may be ignored. Make a stink, you get enforcement. Your choice.
RE: county inspectors used for harassment - justthefacts - 04-27-2015
i dont get the "to frightened to complain" , there is plenty of complaining being done . i dont get the poor me attitude . rules and regulations apply to everyone not just a select few.
RE: county inspectors used for harassment - kalakoa - 04-27-2015
rules and regulations apply to everyone not just a select few.
In practice, "apply to everyone" is not equivalent to "enforced against everyone".
As but one example: County has aerial photos and software that can detect changes, but only a select few have actually had their TMK valuation revised as a result.
RE: county inspectors used for harassment - justthefacts - 04-27-2015
i have had a situation with the county, disagreed with them openly and in the media, they did not retaliate against me . it ended with me not winning but rather a good compromise between myself and the county. i have found that if you treat people respectfully and in a professional manner you will be treated the same .
RE: county inspectors used for harassment - topograph - 04-27-2015
I find the "but everyone else is doing it" argument to be unconvincing and irrelevant to the situation. You don't know how many other house they stopped at on the way to yours, and whether or not you were targeted for retaliation. Whatever the reason you came to the attention of the inspectors, by your own statements you are not in compliance with local ordinance. And ignorance of the law is no excuse.