Permit (unpermitted triggers for Bldg Dept)

[kalakoa]

Apologies if you don't appreciate my input.

More to the point, not making the connection between "buying a house" and "the broader social contract".

I may have missed that day in school.

[Puna Grace]

"the broader social contract"

Given that you have misquoted me, perhaps the disconnect begins there. 

[kalianna]

The original post was asking for input on how to get through the planning dept. with minimal hassle. You hijacked it into being about a "social contract". Thatʻs the disconnect.

[kalakoa]

Admittedly so; let's refer back to the original:

I wonder if there isn't a broader social cost as well...

What exactly is the broader social cost of an unpermitted home? Seriously; I'm intrigued.

[Puna Grace]

I’m looking at what the cost (emotional, psychic  and financial)  - OP


Maybe reading comprehension is the disconnect.  

[kalakoa]

Cost is a choice.

[Ccat]

Most of the social costs of unpermitted homes are imposed by others that benefit from permits (mortgage companies, contractors, building supply manufacturers and sellers, their lobbyists, county government, neighbors treating their homes as an investment that must grow).

Most of the social costs of permitted homes are direct costs, in the form of unaffordability that forces people into wage slavery, enriching others via rental, or homelessness.

It should be a human right to build your own shelter as you see fit, as long as it does not cause harm to others.

 YES!  (A loud shout out!)

A human right, yes.  As long as it does not cause harm...yes.  On land you own outright and not too close to somebody else, etc.  Even if it’s an open air shack, fine with me as long as it is hidden behind bushes or something and you pay reasonable taxes.

ordinary people need a place to live!

zoning, permitting, etc., otherwise, is *evil*!

I lived in California for too long.  There, you might have to get a permit to change your water heater!  Ridiculous!  Enough is enough!  

long live Puna (as built) and the (simple)  happy Puna way of life!

I love Puna! 


Ccat

[kalakoa]

get a permit to change your water heater!

Here, you have to get permits, and then pay someone to change your water heater, because you're not licensed for plumbing/electrical/gas.

Then we wonder why there isn't any "affordable housing".

[Obie]

"Looking at a home which has at least two unpermitted baths and a couple of rooms."

Getting that percentage of the home permitted would trigger an upgrade to the latest code. You might as well tear the house down and start over.

I don't know about any social cost because the county has eyes in the sky and the will notice any addition and raise the property tax accordingly.