Emily

[robguz]

My father was vaccinated as a child, then he died! Sure it was age 57, but it had to have been from a vaccination. I got vaccinated for Hepatitis B and ended up with 3 herniated discs! Yeah, it was 12 years later, but I know it was from that evil vaccine. People who state they are against vaccines are generally grossly uninformed, know nothing about scientific method, and conveniently ignore established facts. What gets me is the same day 7 county councillors voted yes on this ridiculous measure, the New York Times ran a big article summarizing the efficacy of the H1N1 vaccine. These 7 people could not look more uneducated and idiotic. It's truly embarrassing. I've seen Emily. I think I will pass on taking any health related advise from her. Before the last election, I didn't think she could get any more embarrassing. She has proven me wrong.

Vaccines are small potatoes in the bottom line for most pharmaceutical companies. It's actually a problem in that it is financially in their interest not to come up with vaccines, because treating sick people is far more profitable.

[Del Pranke]

It is useless to try to reason with those who have bought into pseudo-science. To paraphrase the late Issac Asimov, "Those who have been flimflammed resent being told that they have been flimflammed." Up to now, the diversity we have held dear as Punatics has been based on a live and let live kind of philosophy which respected the rights of our neighbors to believe, and even act in "curious" ways. But when elected officials start spreading the blarney snot about H1N1 shots in particular, and vaccinations in general being a health risk instead of a health advantage, as somehow scientific, it is no longer a matter of allowing for diversity. It is a public matter to be reconed with by the members of that public so as to ensure the continuation of their health and safety, and that of their families.

[BigIslandPapa]

Aloha,
I worked for 20 years in the mental health system in California, working with the school system. I remember the hype that thimerosal-containing vaccines were being blamed for the increase in Autism, but I also saw the school system taking children who were difficult and had behavior issues and fighting to label them Autistic. It increased the school's funding for every autistic child, and is smacked of a racket for dollars.

Now I found this bit of information on the evil CDC website, citing an article from the "American Journal of Preventive Medicine, August 2003" that found the incidents of Autism in countries that stopped using thimerosal-containing vaccines during the 1990's, while the United States continued did not effect the rate of Autism...in other words, Autism in the Denmark & Sweden continued to rise even without the timerosal-containing vaccines.

This study was prompted by findings reported to the Institute of Medicine by Blaxill in July 2001, which showed increases in autism incidence in California in association with increases in the use of thimerosal-containing vaccines during the 1990s. To further examine the plausibility of this finding, this study took advantage of the cessation of thimerosal use in Denmark and Sweden in 1992 to conduct a before and after comparison of the incidence or case numbers of autism. In both countries, autism increases throughout the years 1987-1999, contrary to the decrease in autism that would be expected after 1992 if thimerosal exposure was related to autism. The increasing trend for autism is most notable in Denmark where the number of autism cases rises substantially even after the discontinuation of thimerosal use. The results were published in the American Journal of Preventive Medicine (Aug 2003; 25(2):101-6).

Link: http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/00_pdf/..._18_09.pdf

I also remember hearing stories from my grandparents, parents, aunts & uncles who grew up in the late 1800's & early 1900's and witnessed the death from illnesses that in later years was prevented from vaccines. My father lost a sister small pox in the early 1920's...wow now we almost never see small pox accept in third world countries that do not get vaccines.

My older brother relayed to me that there has never been a mandatory vaccination program in the United States, the requirement of the school system for children to be vaccinated has loopholes involving religion...etc. so that is not mandatory either.

My personal stance is that anything medical is a personal decision, and any government interference into the decisions of medical issues is unwarranted in any fashion.

Mahalo

Terry

Aloha & Mahalo

Terry

[BigIslandPapa]

P.S.
It took me 5 minutes to find this information, it is out there for the finding, if anyone wants to find it.

Mahalo

Terry

Aloha & Mahalo

Terry