**This Post is about HPP and HPPOA Dysfunction** (renamed to spare the uninterested)

[Patricia]

If you agreed to the terms of the contract, then you are bound by that contract.

I suggest that "law on the books" is a form of contractual obligation, and the law says "roads to be paved before final subdivision plat approval". Because the subdivision was created illegally, I would question the very existence of HPPOA along with any action they have taken (or not taken) since they were formed.

Not that I have standing to do so.


   

Aloha Kalakoa,

I believe every substandard subdivision created in Puna during the time of early statehood shares all of the same infrastructure deficiencies as HPP. Why the developers, at that time, were allowed to get away with not following the laws on the books (because there were laws) I am not sure- too bad we cannot go back and ask the County Planning and Traffic Commission Hiroshi Kasomoto.

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 I suppose your way of thinking would...


My way of thinking is that words have meaning.  When someone tries to change the words that I have said to further their cause, their honor comes into question. Words matter and I doubt there has been another new Punawebber who has ever cast more of them on the rest of us in such a short time.  

So, you suppose wrong. Personally I could not care less about HPPs mailboxes, HOA, roads, endless drama etc.  I do care about people and I appreciate the ones who demonstrate their passion so until now, I found you to be very interesting. Twisting my words however smacks of dishonesty and desperation so I'm less inclined to check in on this thread going forward.

I hope y'all get it figured out. Peace.

PS: My gut tells me that families need mailboxes close to home. It's better for their well being, the environment, and the community as a whole. Maybe it's really about that.

Aloha Punatang.

It was not my intention to change the meaning of your words. You stated that cost is not worth and I was actually agreeing with you. 

As for mailboxes closer to home, I do not think that if you live at the top of the subdivision and have to drive to 14th or 16th, just to get your mail, that some would consider that distance "close." Again, not trying to change your meaning, only that others may not agree with your definition of that word.

Mahalo and also peace.

[Patricia]

   

Where's the "majority?"

One of the justifications for the mailbox project is that a "majority" of HPP owners support it. If this is true, why aren't there more than an average of 4 volunteers, at any given time, "beautifying" the mailbox sites on 4th and 6th? And what, exactly, are these volunteers doing to "finish" 4th and 6th?

It will be interesting to see how many of the "majority" will be GIVING and how much, now that HPPOA is advertising for donations. Because currently, the track record seems to stand at, the "majority" wants so they take.