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I know about the 19.5 point and I think if you are sensitive you can feel the energy on the island but really it was mostly Puna that got damaged. I think a Haarp event would be more thorough but also there is the panic and fear effect which helps distract people or control populations, so I wouldn't put it past Haarp but I am just not entirely convinced. The other thing which may not be apparent to Hawaii residents is that this storm and the damage was barely touched upon in the national news. Similar thing happened with Sandy, the people in the next neighborhood over from me had no idea that my neighborhood had be totaled by the storm. People in the same city had not heard that there was damage. So yes I will admit I think Iselle was fishy but Haarp? IDK You have to realize the people who are in charge and the people who control information are opportunists so a real natural disaster can become just as useful as an artificial disaster, especially when money and power is involved.
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Yawn.
Assume the best and ask questions.
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man, Safeway is out of foil, so I'll have to use my old tinfoil hat.
BTW, don't follow the direction in the link; you need a knob at the top or it doesn't work.
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VancouverIslander - thank you so much for your link, that was very funny. The testimonials section is hilarious! The 7-foot high "Ultimate tinfoil hat with retractable antenna" just cracked me up!
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Don't forget, the military has a portable weather modification station deployed at Pearl Harbor that they don't even bother to conceal:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/thefesers/...otostream/
It's almost always at Pearl Harbor - except just before a storm comes in to the islands, it leaves. Coincidence? I think not!
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It's so good to have a bit of comic relief in times like this. Thank you, everyone!
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OK, so now I have a better understanding of this forum and why I don't participate much - like minds and all. Much mahalo to those who shared their opinions. [8D]
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Why do people have such thin skins - Janet thank you for getting this discussion going and I would urge you continue with your local input
about other observations - pay no attention to those who tend towards, "information aversion ", (I heard that term this morning on HNPR) , they do so for reasons of the fear that knowing truth be it medical, environmental, psychological, or scientific,would in someway jeopardize their belief systems - or world view.
Thanks Derrick for your post and please keep your open mind available to this forum - truth is always truth no matter what obfuscations are thrown in to the mix.
Chemtrails are a reality, only that, just as lawyers, have their own vernacular , and doctors, and scientists, they all have a form language that makes sense to them , but others may have a hard time understanding it- when in truth , things could be made plain.
For example "chemtrails" are the same thing as "aerosols'. because one doesn't use the same word, as do scientists of various kinds, would that mean that they don't exist - no it would not. There are literally millions of people that understand that chemtrails , or shall we say aerosol' are real , and this activity has been going on for a very long time, with the testing or application of aerosols going back to WW2 . Vietnam was an area where all kinds of Aerosols were sprayed on for various purposes.
All that being said , those who care about the truth should continue to be vociferous in putting it out there, and remember what Edward L. Bernays, in his writings about Propaganda said,
" “The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ...We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society. ...In almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons...who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind.”
#8213; Edward L. Bernays, Propaganda
For those who prefer the darkness instead of a clear warning from the likes of no less a person than Dan Inouye, about the "clear and present danger" that exists in the form of the "Secret Shadow Government",that has an army, navy,and air force -totally unaccountable to any democratic process, and whose members are not elected by the general public, and never will be, - I say "that truth will out", as it is now in this very forum.
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O'bob, you predicted Iselle would be strengthened and you were wrong.
How many times do you have to be wrong before you question your fantasies?
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Are you perhaps referring to this post on Iselle
"Look at this image from today(05:30 pm PDT, Tue 05 Aug 2014)at this link:
http://www.atmos.washington.edu/~ovens/w...wv+/24h/2h
As you look at this image, focus on the eye of Iselle, and you can see that it is losing its eye and that it is visibly diminishing.
You can also see radial arms (thin straight lines leaving the outer circumference of Iselle) that are projecting away from the outer circumference and towards the BI- This is geo engineering pure and observable on this frame 05:30 pm PDT, Tue 05 Aug 2014, whereas the earlier frames 01:30 pm PDT, Tue 05 Aug 2014 and this frame 03:30 pm PDT, Tue 05 Aug 2014, do not show this occurrence.
And the most recent frame (07:30 pm PDT, Mon 04 Aug 2014) shows how those radial line have disappeared almost completely
The answer Paul is that it was strengthened at the the time I made that post and later it diminished and then later again it strengthened - back and forth, which is just what is happening to Julio now . Incidentally, just before land fall another frame (of Iselle) in the sequence was very much manipulated similar (in bold print) to this one from todays continuing thread of "More Tropical Weather heading our way" where I posted this current info:
" Their is no doubt when viewing these particular frames with an eye on Julio that in this frame: 08:00 pm PDT, Mon 11 Aug 2014, Julio is disorganized - subsequent frames through 11:00 pm PDT, Mon 11 Aug 2014.
will show an interesting development, IE weather manipulation via aerosol application, in the next frame @ 8:30 , in the beginning you can see a white line sort of arc shaped, watch what happens in the subsequent frames, as that little arc is expanded via the application of aerosol's (in the lower most developed area of whats left of Julio) so that by 11:00 pm PDT, Mon 11 Aug 2014. Julio has been pumped up.
Careful observation from the beginning of this 48 hr loop will show that not just Julio is being manipulated but practically the whole Eastern Hemisphere is being manipulated.
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