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#31
Are there churches or temples still celebrating mass in person currently on the Big Island? All I've seen are the listings for those that aren't, but am agnostic about those things I know not of.

https://www.kwxx.com/2020/03/31/covid-19...ponements/

Several states have made exemptions for churches to hold services in person so they're able congregate and help save us from covid?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world...60246.html
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#32
Coming soon from your overly friendly tech giant cops (via NY Times)

3. Apple and Google are working together on tools that would allow people to be notified on their phones if they come in contact with someone who had the coronavirus.

The effort will soon launch as an opt-in app, then be added into the operating systems of billions of iPhones and Android devices within several months. That would enable the smartphones to constantly log other devices they get close to, enabling “contact tracing” of the virus.
"I'm at that stage in life where I stay out of discussions. Even if you say 1+1=5, you're right - have fun." - Keanu Reeves
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#33
kander - I dont particularity like the idea of more restrictions. Because they always turn into a permanent thing.

I get that and agree, but, like with the stay-at-home restrictions, the effectiveness of these measures can be used to justify the means.

However, that doesn't defend a blind headlong plunge into an extensive erosion of privacy and liberties (cough cough, Apple & Google apps & possible OS changes to allow better tracking), but it does require some smart alternatives to be thought of that balances out the competing interests.

For instance, government and companies are already using your cell phone location to track mobility changes to grade how well communities are doing with social distancing. Justified? Intrusive? Both? Why hasn't this provoked more outrage from the Big Brother resistance as it is surveillance already being done without your knowledge or consent?

https://www.unacast.com/post/the-unacast...scoreboard
"The Social Distancing Scoreboard and other tools being developed for the Covid-19 Toolkit do not identify any individual person, device, or household. However to calculate the actual underlying social indexing score we combine tens of millions of anonymous mobile phones and their interactions with each other each day - and then extrapolate the results to the population level."
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#34
"Why hasn't this provoked more outrage from the Big Brother resistance as it is surveillance already being done without your knowledge or consent?"

Maybe because you can turn it off on your phone.
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#35
Maybe because you can turn it off on your phone.

Hahaha! Oh no Toto, we certainly ain't in Kansas anymore!

Hey Obie, remember them bridges? We got all kinds. Come on down, we got big ones, tall ones, long and omg we even got new ones! Dime a dozen brah, you know, covid-19 rates!

Me, I like the ones with those big banners, Free Eddie Snowden, hanging from them. Now, those come at a premium.
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#36
Maybe because you can turn it off on your phone.

Most people have their phones on when they’re away from home, that’s when the tracking is most invasive:

... added into the operating system... constantly log other devices...

If people are upset about a police state with road blocks and traffic stops, they could stay home. It solves the problem in the same way as turning off your phone.
"I'm at that stage in life where I stay out of discussions. Even if you say 1+1=5, you're right - have fun." - Keanu Reeves
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#37
You can turn off the tracking and still use your phone.

https://lifehacker.com/psa-your-phone-lo...1486085759

Every time my phone does a security check it reminds me to turn that feature off if I'm not using it and I have left it on. Most of the time 95% mine is turned off. I only turn it on for important stuff like asking where there is beer near me.
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#38
Mobile phone tracking

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phone_tracking
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#39
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Originally posted by hokuili

Mobile phone tracking

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phone_tracking


I don't know what your point is.I can turn the most accurate tracking off with my phone.That leaves this :

Advanced systems determine the sector in which the mobile phone is located and roughly estimate also the distance to the base station. Further approximation can be done by interpolating signals between adjacent antenna towers. Qualified services may achieve a precision of down to 50 meters in urban areas where mobile traffic and density of antenna towers (base stations) is sufficiently high. Rural and desolate areas may see miles between base stations and therefore determine locations less precisely.
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#40
You can turn off the tracking and still use your phone.

You could use Amazon’s Alexa with confidence that your conversations were private, until they weren’t. The details of your cell phone conversations were confidential until the Patriot Act allowed for keyword searches.

I can see a police checkpoint on the road ahead, but I can’t see when the NSA flips a setting on my phone from off to on. But sure, a built-in tracking feature won’t ever be adapted for another use in the future by any one of multiple intelligence agencies, domestic or foreign.
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