10-31-2021, 07:28 AM
since im still signed in ... I think we can be and should "show off" to Florida.
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Vaccinated People Spread The Delta Variant, CDC Says
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 (10-30-2021, 09:59 PM)kander Wrote:(10-30-2021, 07:49 AM)TomK Wrote: you are not an expert in the field whereas doctors and medical researchers are.This is might be true. Riddle me this, how can you in good conscious trust experts who do things like fund gain of function research (nice way of saying bio weapons) and just for kicks pays for studies that include feeding live beagles to sand fleas? [...] I've not said anything about beagles, sand fleas or trusting experts in whatever you want to bring up next. I'm talking about experts and doctors all over the world who say vaccinations work and I don't tend to walk into straw man arguments like yours. (10-31-2021, 06:39 AM)AaronM Wrote: "Fully vaccinated individuals with breakthrough infections have peak viral load similar to unvaccinated cases and can efficiently transmit infection in household settings, including to fully vaccinated contacts." It's like talking to a brick wall. Hi Aaron! Once again, please note that the study you quote says more vaccinations are needed. "Increasing population immunity via booster programmes and vaccination of teenagers will help to increase the currently limited effect of vaccination on transmission, but our analysis suggests that direct protection of individuals at risk of severe outcomes, via vaccination and non-pharmacological interventions, will remain central to containing the burden of disease caused by the delta variant." (10-31-2021, 02:55 AM)kander Wrote: Should we distrust those doctors and viral experts who have said the jab is rife with potential risks? Sure can. Just as easily as it is to distrust those who have proven to be dishonest. What doctors and viral experts are you referring to? And what do patron saints have to do with anything? 
10-31-2021, 05:38 PM
"Vaccination reduces the risk of delta variant infection and accelerates viral clearance. Nonetheless, fully vaccinated individuals with breakthrough infections have peak viral load similar to unvaccinated cases and can efficiently transmit infection in household settings, including to fully vaccinated contacts. Host–virus interactions early in infection may shape the entire viral trajectory."
So basically if you are in a household setting and your household is vaccinated you are in good shape. Good enough reason for my wife and I to have been vaccinated. Maybe Rob can close this down now.
10-31-2021, 06:22 PM
People can be responsible for themselves and their families health.
Recent events do not support this opinion. 
10-31-2021, 06:50 PM
(10-31-2021, 06:22 PM)kalakoa Wrote: People can be responsible for themselves and their families health. No kidding. If we left it to 'people' to figure stuff out for themselves society would collapse. You just can't feed people a piss poor education and then expect them to do anything more than facebook. It's all click bait.. their whole life a give me give me now mindless experience.. and they scream so loud about their so call freedoms while acting like no more than poorly developed monkeys...
What doctors and viral experts are you referring to? And what do patron saints have to do with anything?
Ok Dr. Robert W. Malone, gene therapy, bio-defense, vaccines and immunology; discoverer of in-vitro and in-vivo RNA transfection and architect of mRNA vaccine platform ^ The guy whos name is on the patent for this technology and has said its not safe. FWIW... Dr. Paul E. Alexander, clinical epidemiologist, former WHO-PAHO and US HHS consultant/senior Covid Pandemic advisor Dr. Pierre Kory, critical care and pulmonary medicine specialist, former Chief of Critical Care Service and Medical Director of Trauma and Life Support Center at University of Wisconsin Dr. Paul E. Marik, professor of medicine and Chief of Pulmonary and Critical Care Medicine, Eastern Virginia Medical School Dr. Marc G. Wathelet, molecular biologist, innate immunology and coronavirus expert, consultant, Belgium Dr. Richard Urso, scientist, sole inventor of an FDA-approved wound healing drug, former Chief of Orbital Oncology at MD Anderson Cancer Center Dr. Ryan Cole, board-certified pathologist, CEO of Cole Diagnostics, Boise, Idaho Dr. Peter McCullough, clinical cardiologist, preventive cardiology and advanced lipidology, former vice chief of internal medicine at Baylor University Medical Center Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche, virology, vaccine R&D, former Sr Ebola Program Manager, Global Alliance for Vaccines & Immunization (GAVI), former Head of Vaccine Development Office, German Center for Infection Research And thousands of others. Your watching the same dozen people on tv.. https://twitter.com/I7Bomb/status/1453849237872123905 https://twitter.com/i/status/1453863164139950087 https://twitter.com/i/status/1453396847792373770 Dr. Peter McCullough has a lot of information on what is happening. Again Tom, If sticking your head in the sand over whats been happening to people, and what will happen to people makes you feel comfortable in your decision to get injected with the experimental treatment, its ok. I completely understand. As I mentioned before what has been done cannot be undone. Calling people anti-vax is just not gonna fly when its just this particular injection some people are absolutely not going to take. You can desire us to die of covid, you can desire us to be locked away in an internment camp but were not budging on this. I have had all my vaccination shots through my lifetime. But this vaccine that hijacks your cells to produce the spike protein which induces the immune response is rife with problems, many of which are starting to come to fruition. Its going to be a damn dark winter. (Added In Edit) Yale Professor, Dr Riche says... https://brandnewtube.com/watch/yale-prof...O9JEs.html Dr Thompson. https://www.bitchute.com/video/jnvUeXOULlsx/ A patron saint, patroness saint, patron hallow or heavenly protector is a saint who in Catholicism, Anglicanism, or Eastern Orthodoxy is regarded as the heavenly advocate.. IE Fauci and crew. (10-31-2021, 06:50 PM)MyManao Wrote:MyManao: Hahahahahahaha! Great post.(10-31-2021, 06:22 PM)kalakoa Wrote: People can be responsible for themselves and their families health.
10-31-2021, 11:52 PM
(10-31-2021, 08:19 PM)kander Wrote: Dr. Robert W. Malone... You really gotta itch, eh? Let's just take your star Doc.. the one, if you are listening, at all, that stands out as a full on charlatan.. the kine only FB idiots would sidle up to.. are you one of those FB idiots, kander? From.. https://www.theatlantic.com/science/arch...ic/619734/ The Vaccine Scientist Spreading Vaccine Misinformation Robert Malone claims to have invented mRNA technology. Why is he trying so hard to undermine its use? Robert Malone—a medical doctor and an infectious-disease researcher—recently suggested that the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines might actually make COVID-19 infections worse. He chuckled as he imagined Anthony Fauci announcing that the vaccination campaign was all a big mistake (“Oh darn, I was wrong!”) and would need to be abandoned. When he floated that nightmare scenario during a recent podcast interview with Steve Bannon, both men seemed almost delighted at the prospect of public-health officials and pharmaceutical companies getting their comeuppance. “This is a catastrophe,” Bannon declared, beaming at his guest. “You’re hearing it from an individual who invented the mRNA [vaccine] and has dedicated his life to vaccines. He’s the opposite of an anti-vaxxer.” Before going any further, let’s be clear that the back-and-forth between Bannon and Malone was premised on misinformation... If you want you can read the entire article, in The Atlantic, at the link above.. but, suffice it to say.. kander, as are his sources, is swinging' from the rafters bananas.. (10-31-2021, 11:52 PM)MyManao Wrote:Yea im sure he is insane, swinging from the rafters. So why are you faithfully defending the use of the technology he invented and that is saying its dangerous and unsafe? Same thing can be said for the guy who invented the PCR tests which we relied on for much of the pandemic. his warnings. also insane im sure.(10-31-2021, 08:19 PM)kander Wrote: Dr. Robert W. Malone... This is cognitive dissonance. Here is a summary of the patents he holds. https://patents.justia.com/inventor/robert-w-malone patent 5589466 is of particular interest. |
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