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Old Lahaina Town Utterly Destroyed - Recovery & Relief Efforts
(08-18-2023, 02:47 AM)My 2 cents Wrote: It’s good that he resigned since he wasn’t qualified for the position in the first place.  But the people I want to see suffer some appropriate consequences (use your imagination) are the people who appointed him to that position ahead of other more qualified applicants.
Weren't there other so-called "civil defense" people who could have turned on the sirens?  Especially since Andaya wasn't paying attention and wasn't even on the island?
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Why didn't every single person fleeing in a car honk their horns to alert their neighbors? Maybe blame at anything but the root cause is a lost cause...
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honk their horns to alert their neighbors? 

It worked for Paul Revere.
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120 years in business in Lahaina.
Gone.  Will not reopen.
Nagasako Okazuya Deli.

https://twitter.com/tikitales/status/1692406049058500664?s=21&t=B673lgFElHcG01zXnQtXWg
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I'd rather lose a deli than lose a boat ramp.
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I'd rather lose a deli than lose a boat ramp.

I don't think there was a choice.
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Who said anything about choice? What a ludicrous retort.
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(08-19-2023, 03:45 AM)AaronM Wrote: Who said anything about choice?  What a ludicrous retort.

You did.
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FWIW I think that the sirens should have been sounded but I don't know when. With hindsight you can pick a time but without hindsight I default to 6:30am when the fire started up on Lahainaluna Rd.

If the sirens were sounded early enough most people would have milled around and eventually made some kind of informed decision. At least they wouldn't have been in bed sleeping. If sounded late, like as the fire reached town and the fire was spreading faster than anybody could run and probably faster than most residential speed limits, there for sure would have been some people who headed uphill thinking there was a tsunami. Even so, 10 people dead because of that vs 100 who had a better outcome would have been a "win" albeit not one that public officials could point to proudly.
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Indicating a preference is not the same as making a choice. All that scientific training and you skipped English Composition?

The difference between people in person and people behind a keyboard is astounding. When we met for drinks at the Naniloa and I brought that assortment of British sweets, you were not this intentionally obtuse.

Oh well, back to the ignore list you go.
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