MK controversy thread

[kalianna]

... sigh... Iʻm trying to ignore her but the quotes still show up. I guess not even a trip to Honolulu deters her from her 1.9 posts a day. But just have to agree with you Ms. Wahine. I havenʻt seen anything misogynistic in any of My Mana'oʻs posts. It was that "pet" comment that she misinterpreted that started the whole thing.

[Wao nahele wahine]

... sigh... Iʻm trying to ignore her but the quotes still show up.  I guess not even a trip to Honolulu deters her from her 1.9 posts a day.  But just have to agree with you Ms. Wahine.  I havenʻt seen anything misogynistic in any of My Mana'oʻs posts.  It was that "pet" comment that she misinterpreted that started the whole thing.

Thank you Kalianna. I don't understand how she thinks that one poster can be called a misogynist for calling her names. Following her logic, she should be called a misandrist.

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Dead end corporate jobs...disgusting.   

How many times do I have to state that I don't approve of name calling?  Do you understand?  Best for you to go enjoy your weekend...who else would be on PW when they are visiting with good friends in Honolulu?

How many times do I have to state that it’s misogyny? Do you understand that?

As for being on PW while visiting with good friends in Honolulu, well that me! I’m “ambidextrous”

And I’m having a wonderful weekend! However, if anyone sees flames 20 feet in the air in Hawaiian Acres, please contact the fire department. I left my 15 year old grandson in charge of our dog Barney, and the house!

And unable to defend her tasteless "dead end corporate jobs" comment, she conveniently ignores it. But the exclamation points are back....someone might be having a few drinks. Nothing wrong with that.

[HiloJulie]

... sigh... Iʻm trying to ignore her but the quotes still show up.  I guess not even a trip to Honolulu deters her from her 1.9 posts a day.  But just have to agree with you Ms. Wahine.  I havenʻt seen anything misogynistic in any of My Mana'oʻs posts.  It was that "pet" comment that she misinterpreted that started the whole thing.

Thank you Kalianna.  I don't understand how she thinks that one poster can be called a misogynist for calling her names.  Following her logic, she should be called a misandrist.
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Other than stating that the reason a man makes misogynistic comments is due to the fact that they have:

1. No basis of making an informed opinion about a subject matter 
2. Their realization that their own penis is very small. 

Outside of that, I have in no way insulted ANY male person on this thread due to me disagreeing with their opinions. 

Calling me a misandrist is not even close to being true. 

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Dead end corporate jobs...disgusting.   

How many times do I have to state that I don't approve of name calling?  Do you understand?  Best for you to go enjoy your weekend...who else would be on PW when they are visiting with good friends in Honolulu?

How many times do I have to state that it’s misogyny? Do you understand that?

As for being on PW while visiting with good friends in Honolulu, well that me! I’m “ambidextrous”

And I’m having a wonderful weekend! However, if anyone sees flames 20 feet in the air in Hawaiian Acres, please contact the fire department. I left my 15 year old grandson in charge of our dog Barney, and the house!

And unable to defend her tasteless "dead end corporate jobs" comment, she conveniently ignores it.  But the exclamation points are back....someone might be having a few drinks.  Nothing wrong with that.

Yeh. Another “tool” pulled out of the bag of a person whom they disagree with - the age old “having a few drinks” mantra! (Note exclamation point)

PS. I’m as sober as an on duty Hawaii County male policeman.

[Wao nahele wahine]

... sigh... Iʻm trying to ignore her but the quotes still show up.  I guess not even a trip to Honolulu deters her from her 1.9 posts a day.  But just have to agree with you Ms. Wahine.  I havenʻt seen anything misogynistic in any of My Mana'oʻs posts.  It was that "pet" comment that she misinterpreted that started the whole thing.

Thank you Kalianna.  I don't understand how she thinks that one poster can be called a misogynist for calling her names.  Following her logic, she should be called a misandrist.
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Other than stating that the reason a man makes misogynistic comments is due to the fact that they have:

1. No basis of making an informed opinion about a subject matter 
2. Their realization that their own penis is very small. 

Outside of that, I have in no way insulted ANY male person on this thread due to me disagreeing with their opinions. 

Calling me a misandrist is not even close to being true. 

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Dead end corporate jobs...disgusting.   

How many times do I have to state that I don't approve of name calling?  Do you understand?  Best for you to go enjoy your weekend...who else would be on PW when they are visiting with good friends in Honolulu?

How many times do I have to state that it’s misogyny? Do you understand that?

As for being on PW while visiting with good friends in Honolulu, well that me! I’m “ambidextrous”

And I’m having a wonderful weekend! However, if anyone sees flames 20 feet in the air in Hawaiian Acres, please contact the fire department. I left my 15 year old grandson in charge of our dog Barney, and the house!

And unable to defend her tasteless "dead end corporate jobs" comment, she conveniently ignores it.  But the exclamation points are back....someone might be having a few drinks.  Nothing wrong with that.

Yeh. Another “tool” pulled out of the bag of a person whom they disagree with - the age old “having a few drinks” mantra! (Note exclamation point)

PS. I’m as sober as an on duty Hawaii County male policeman.

It was a joke.  Still have no defense for your dead end comment?

And you have insulted men on threads on PW. Why are you so focused on their penis size? My calling you a misandrist makes as much sense as you calling anyone on here a misogynist. That's why I said it. Trying to get you to see the absurdity of your claim. Only editing this in now because I just saw this part of your post.

[HiloJulie]

“It was a joke. Still have no defense for your dead end comment?”

Well, the comment is taken partially out of context. I made that comment in conjunction with another thread that was being discussed at around the same time about minimum wages and jobs at places such as WalMart, Burger King and McDonalds, etc. as being dead end corporate jobs combined with my comment on the Opihi pickers as to what would happen if there was 2 employees at say a WalMart etc dying on the job within two weeks. 

Taken in and of itself, it could be considered a disgusting comment. How it was offered, just like your joke, did not mean nor was meant to be an insult.

[Wao nahele wahine]

“It was a joke. Still have no defense for your dead end comment?”

Well, the comment is taken partially out of context. I made that comment in conjunction with another thread that was being discussed at around the same time about minimum wages and jobs at places such as WalMart, Burger King and McDonalds, etc. as being dead end corporate jobs combined with my comment on the Opihi pickers as to what would happen if there was 2 employees at say a WalMart etc dying on the job within two weeks. 

Taken in and of itself, it could be considered a disgusting comment. How it was offered, just like your joke, did not mean nor was meant to be an insult.

I could accept that response if it had been mentioned in the Opihi Picker thread. Anyone reading only the opihi picker thread would not get that connection. Even after I pointed it out to you in that thread, you ignored my comments about it. No clarification or explanation. You made a wise crack about drinking on an earlier post, so I decided to bring a little levity into this discussion.

I already stated that we can agree to disagree. Now that Tom's thread has been seriously derailed and numerous punawebbers are full from eating popcorn and reading through all of this, are you ready to agree to disagree?

[HiloJulie]

I agreed to disagree on post #184

And, I must agree with you that this seemingly female lead “circle jerk” has destroyed Tom’s Maunakea controversy thread, to which, Tom, please accept my sincerest apologies. 

Furthermore, rounding out the irony of irony, at the hotel we are at here on Waikiki Beach, since earlier this morning, guests have been scurrying around and saying Rosie O’Donnell is staying here right now. In as much as I have zero proof that she is, if I do find her, I’ll get her take on all of this discussion. 

Again Tom, I am truly sorry.

Julie OUT!

ETA: I’ll be goddamned to find a good old warm Bud Light around here!

[Wao nahele wahine]

I agreed to disagree on post #184

And, I must agree with you that this seemingly female lead “circle jerk” has destroyed Tom’s Maunakea controversy thread, to which, Tom, please accept my sincerest apologies. 

Furthermore, rounding out the irony of irony, at the hotel we are at here on Waikiki Beach, since earlier this morning, guests have been scurrying around and saying Rosie O’Donnell is staying here right now. In as much as I have zero proof that she is, if I do find her, I’ll get her take on all of this discussion. 

Again Tom, I am truly sorry.

Julie OUT!

ETA: I’ll be goddamned to find a good old warm Bud Light around here!

I will agree that you agreed to disagree on post #185...at least that is what it shows me. You asked me a question in that post so I answered, and we went a few more rounds beating the horse to a pulp.

Peace.

[HiloJulie]

And you have insulted men on threads on PW.  Why are you so focused on their penis size?  My calling you a misandrist makes as much sense as you calling anyone on here a misogynist.  That's why I said it.  Trying to get you to see the absurdity of your claim.  Only editing this in now because I just saw this part of your post.

You sure do love beating and beating and beating this dead horse now, don't you? Even after you said you were done. Even after you said Peace.

Ironic that you now come in 7 hours after you made a post and edit it claiming that you just now saw a part of my post, which, proves that you are not interested in debating a topic, you just see a post from me and as quickly as you can got to rattle off some quoted portion of what I said, taking most of it out of context, instead of reading the ENTIRE post FIRST and formulating a response that can be responded by me once. I understand why various posters do that, but that's a whole different debate.

Furthermore, can you even come close to comprehending the concept of agreeing to disagree?

Thats where you have your opinion, and I have mine. You disagree with mine and I disagree with yours. Ever since YOU started this completely immature battle you seemingly think you need to win at any cost; you have asked me to agree to disagree, which I did and yet keep beating your drum over and over and over that it's not misogyny, its name calling. I disagree. I am not changing my opinion to meet yours as you clearly desire to see me do. I agreed to disagree a long time ago, yet you continue and continue and continue with your blather.

As I stated before, I have, as you say it, "insulted" any man on this thread soley because they used misogyny and misogynist terms about me. I explained why misogynists do that, and yes, it involves penis size. You should study the medical information that abounds on the topic of misogyny.  

The one who needs to see absurdity, is you. You are so full of it; I can smell it here on Waikiki Beach.

In closing, regardless of any response you make, or further edited posts, I will not respond.

Encore Julie OUT!

[TomK]

... sigh... Iʻm trying to ignore her but the quotes still show up.  I guess not even a trip to Honolulu deters her from her 1.9 posts a day.  But just have to agree with you Ms. Wahine.  I havenʻt seen anything misogynistic in any of My Mana'oʻs posts.  It was that "pet" comment that she misinterpreted that started the whole thing.

Let's break this down. MyManoa claimed I picked up a new pet. The pet was HiloJulie. Despite the fact that HiloJulie and I have never met, he referred to her as a "pet". That's not a nice thing to say about a woman if you are a man; it essentially says that he considers the woman a pet in a male-female relationship. I think that's an outdated and misogynist view of women. He did the same with Pam. Rather than seeing a woman as an equal partner in a relationship, even if it's a relationship in his mind only, he sees the woman as a pet.

BTW, what does the number of posts per day or where someone went have to do with anything?