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Moderator 2 needs Robs moderation.
#91
(12-02-2024, 07:28 AM)TomK Wrote:
(12-02-2024, 06:22 AM)Patricia Wrote:
(12-02-2024, 06:12 AM)TomK Wrote: Yes, and it all could go in one subforum. I don't know, call it "Matters related to HPP." Then all this stuff gets moved there; moderation can be limited, just like the politics thread, and you can still have your discussions and arguments there.

But you are missing the point. So, please do not deflect. Any "argument" in this post has, in actuality, nothing to do with HPP or HPPOA. The "argument" here is that M2, Obie, and Hilo Julie, are disseminating false information (whether intentionally or not). And THAT argument and the reasons for, should be open to everyone on this forum.

I don't think I'm missing the point at all. I've suggested a fix that Rob and Moderator2 don't seem willing to do, but you keep going on and on and end up annoying people. I have issues with both Rob and Moderator 2's handling of issues, but I don't keep going on about it. It's Rob's site, and he can do what he likes. If you don't like it, go and start your campaign somewhere else.

This is ridiculous. I asked questions about Kane's post and now, somehow this is all about me and a "campaign." 

Geez. Can ANYONE tell me, since I do not know and just wanted, even a hint of, what it was about?
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#92
I give up. You brought this on yourself.
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#93
Screen shots. YES take aways. Don't lax ever. Sorry todays world.
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#94
Patricia;

You want to know what discussion really is?

I asked you on three occasions why you have your status set to hidden. I asked you what value does that bring you?

You finally responded with:

“As for my status being hidden. Ask me what you want to know. I am an open book.”

That is not an answer.

It is obfuscation.

It is subterfuge.

It is a response designed to baffle and to befuddle.

It is a response that is designed to specifically bewilder, complicate and conceal the reason.

It is a response that is meant to obscure and perplex.

In short it’s a non-answer answer.

So, there was never any intention of you having a discussion.

And the last thing you want to do is discuss. You want to talk but not discuss. You want to hear but you don’t listen.

(12-02-2024, 08:36 AM)JaySell Wrote: Screen shots. YES take aways. Don't lax ever. Sorry todays world.

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#95
Im here to sell my pots because  
https://punaweb.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=23475
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#96
(12-02-2024, 07:33 AM)Patricia Wrote: This is ridiculous. I asked questions about Kane's post and now, somehow this is all about me and a "campaign." 

Geez. Can ANYONE tell me, since I do not know and just wanted, even a hint of, what it was about?
Moderator 2 deleted Kane's post, or part of it, because they believed it reeked of a national politics conspiracy theory.
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#97
(12-02-2024, 03:35 PM)Durian Fiend Wrote:
(12-02-2024, 07:33 AM)Patricia Wrote: This is ridiculous. I asked questions about Kane's post and now, somehow this is all about me and a "campaign." 

Geez. Can ANYONE tell me, since I do not know and just wanted, even a hint of, what it was about?
Moderator 2 deleted Kane's post, or part of it, because they believed it reeked of a national politics conspiracy theory.

Aloha Durian.

Thank you for the answer. That was all I was interested in- along with possibly discussing the perceived differences of moderation vs. censorship. 

Mahalo, again.
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#98
Aloha all,

I am fairly new to this forum. And being new to a situation where there are so many personalities, biases, and egos (including my own) can be difficult to maneuver. Still, I am trying. So again, apologies if I get it or you "wrong." I have no desire to fight with anyone, or to exchange long-winded, insulting back and forth word play.

That said, I wish to address the following, seeing as this post was directed at M2 and questioning M2's decisions/behavior. 

M2 stated, to me:

1) I deleted the name of a person in a post.  The name was deleted by request of that person.
2) I deleted your name, mailing address (phone?) on a document you attached.  If you object to the entire document being deleted you may redact your personal information and resubmit.
3) You suggested I use my real name.  I didn’t reply.


I have spent the better part of my morning looking over my post, regarding the subject that shall not be named.
1) The only name I have seen redacted by M2 is my own- I did not request this redaction
2) The document in question was, is, and has always been an emailed letter (not a court document as M2 has mistakenly confused). M2 deleted the email image on 11/6 stating it contained my name, address, email, and phone number. The image did not. I have one screenshot of that image in my gallery dated 11/5 and all the information, regarding myself (except my name, because it was pertinent to the conversation) has been redacted. 
3. I stated to Rob Tucker and M2 that it was my opinion that if a Moderator is going to make judgement calls about other PW users that the Moderator should use their real name (and barring that, at least their PW user name). However, I did not push the matter and accepted M2's "no reply."

I am addressing these comments from M2 because I am fairly new and do not have the shared history that many of you do. And after re-reading some of the comments made about me on this post, I feel there has been a focus by some to characterize me as being someone who cannot be trusted or taken seriously. 

I am a lot of things. I can be annoying. I can be verbally cutting. I can be stubborn. I can be short-tempered. And I make mistakes- for which I have and will always apologize (read my comments, regarding the subject that shall not be named). But I also have a great sense of humor, am intelligent, always eager to know more, and I am extremely empathetic (probably why injustice can hit so hard).

The one thing I can honestly say that I am not is untruthful. I do not lie and I do not tell partial truths (not very political of me). 

I am sure some will read the above and snort. Especially as over the course of the past several years they have worked hard to discredit me. But it is my hope that others of you will allow me the opportunity to show you (instead of letting others tell you) who I really am. 

Mahalo, for your time and understanding.
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#99
I have no desire to fight with anyone, or to exchange long-winded, insulting back and forth word play.

1) The only name I have seen redacted by M2 is my own- I did not request this redaction

2) The document in question was, is, and has always been an emailed letter (not a court document as M2 has mistakenly confused). M2 deleted the email image on 11/6 stating it contained my name, address, email, and phone number. The image did not.

If you had no desire to exchange long winded… then why are we here yet again?

The redacted name on the forum was not your name. It was someone else.  The deleted attachment had your name and info.

You have multiple attachments on the HPP thread not just one.   One of the many you posted was deleted because I was trying to protect you from exposing your private personal information to everyone on the internet.  You should thank me, not continue to argue.  Again, attached is your admission that you did in fact accidentally reveal your personal information.

What exactly did you mean in your explanation?  Was there another document in which you exposed that information?  What were you talking about?

You may reply to the questions above.  After that all posts concerning your HPP attachment on this thread will be deleted.  It’s been discussed in full.


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(12-02-2024, 07:59 PM)Moderator 2 Wrote: I have no desire to fight with anyone, or to exchange long-winded, insulting back and forth word play.

1) The only name I have seen redacted by M2 is my own- I did not request this redaction

2) The document in question was, is, and has always been an emailed letter (not a court document as M2 has mistakenly confused). M2 deleted the email image on 11/6 stating it contained my name, address, email, and phone number. The image did not.

If you had no desire to exchange long winded… then why are we here yet again?

The redacted name on the forum was not your name. It was someone else.  The deleted attachment had your name and info.

You have multiple attachments on the HPP thread not just one.   One of the many you posted was deleted because I was trying to protect you from exposing your private personal information to everyone on the internet.  You should thank me, not continue to argue.  Again, attached is your admission that you did in fact accidentally reveal your personal information.

What exactly did you mean in your explanation?  Was there another document in which you exposed that information?  What were you talking about?

You may reply to the questions above.  After that all posts concerning your HPP attachment on this thread will be deleted.  It’s been discussed in full.


Your enclosed image is not my "admission." It is snark. 
 
I do not see the point of repeating myself- because others find it annoying and it does not appear that you have been listening (that is my perception- I could be wrong). But I suggest you reread both your and Obie's comments referring to a "separate" document, referred to as a court document (not what I posted).

If you would privately message me the image, which you have stated you deleted because you are "trying to protect me," then perhaps I can understand why you and Mr. O. were/are so concerned about "protecting" me while I was/am not. Also, I will be able to see what document you and Mr. O are exactly referring to, as the only document I see removed is one on Nov. 6. And that document would be- please see attached, from Nov. 5. Please note, no address, no email, no phone.

   

Mahalo-
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