03-02-2011, 07:36 AM
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Originally posted by anthonyf
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Originally posted by punaticbychoice
Steve Jobs and Bill Gates: created much of the content of our lives today.
Really? Gates and Jobs built all those millions of computers and wrote all that code by themselves? And they grew the food that they needed to eat and cleaned their toilets while the were doing it? Jobs transplanted his own pancreas? They both taught themselves how to read in kindergarden? They even created the egg and sprem which combined to make their bodies?
This is the silly idea of individualism that I was speaking about in another thread. People in Puna think the live independantly, buit they are only blind to the strings that tie them to everything else. It give one a power feeling to say they are independant but it is meaningless. What we need to understand and to foster is a proper dependance.
No one is independantly responsible for creating anything, and we can not even begin to disentangle the value that each individual contributed into creating computers. Jobs and Gates are nothing but the product of their environment. If more people has the same life experience as Jobs and Gates there would be more Jobs and Gates.
The word is Interdependance. Interdependance recognozes the different contributions and the infinite value of each.
And do not get me started on how we even have to assume that "all of this content" is even benefical for humaity.,,
It was a liver that he got a transplant for. Jobs more then anybody in corporate history, is the corporation. He does have help, however everything that happens in that company is either created, guided or approved by Jobs. Apple is the way it is because of one individuals vision. He will teach those that follow him to be like him, but Apple will never be the same after he leaves. It will be a great loss for the world, and especially our country. Its to bad he couldn't run our country with the same efficiency that he runs the second largest corporation in the world. He has been responsible for the greatest technological accomplishments that allow the individual and society to excel. The Apple II(created by woz, marketed by jobs)the first PC, the Macintosh(the PC for the masses) iPod/iPhone/iPad the post PC revolution. You would not be posting on this forum if it was not for Jobs, the first website ran on one of his Next computers in the CERN labs. Gates is a great guy too, but he had lots of help and could not have done it on his own. I do believe that Gates will successfully wipe out multiple major diseases with his philanthropy, what a selfish individual. Deny the individual and ego all you want, they don't care about what you think. They are to busy doing things for themselves, maybe you might get to ride on some great individuals coattails and claim their accomplishments for the masses.