09-24-2011, 07:46 AM
sounds very fine, John. Sigh ... [
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yes, if you fly to Asia that much it would be nothing. It would be a lot for me. I don't like flying.
makuu, boy I'm glad I wasn't on THAT flight! [
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I think you have it all figured out. You don't care about the frills. Frequent fliers who do these reviews on long hauls seem to place a great emphasis on the personal entertainment, the food, and of course the leg room. (I would care about the leg room.) They also have a certain standard for Business and First, but as you point out, Hawaiian isn't charging the price for those classes that the airlines do that offer premium service in them.
I would still prefer a 777 to a 767 because the stability in flight seems much greater to me. A 777 feels like a big living room in the air, but on our flight home on Hawaiian, which was of course ocean all the way, the winds buffeted the plane constantly and I didn't like it. But then it was a windy time in the Pacific that we went, not normal weather.
But when I was looking at equipment for Hawai'i to Asia flights (in 2008, so maybe it's changed), I noticed that none of the airlines were flying their best planes out of Hawai'i. They were flying the premium planes out of LAX and other mainland airports, and using 747's and 767's and the airbuses (for some), and they weren't fitted with lie flat seats in premium classes, or laptop ports, the state of the art was just not in play for Hawai'i.
That's really nice about the inter-island flights being included. []
I've flown first on Hawaiian inter-island once and it was nothing I would pay much for as far as the flight went. I only did it as a $25 upgrade at check-in because my husband had had surgery and we wanted to use the lounge at the airport so he could lie down while we waited for a few hours.
The first class lounge for inter-island is not fancy at all but if you have any kind of wait between connections it is nice to be able to use it.
I've been reading Bill Bryson's book "In a Sunburned Country" in bits and pieces. Very funny.
]yes, if you fly to Asia that much it would be nothing. It would be a lot for me. I don't like flying.
makuu, boy I'm glad I wasn't on THAT flight! [
]I think you have it all figured out. You don't care about the frills. Frequent fliers who do these reviews on long hauls seem to place a great emphasis on the personal entertainment, the food, and of course the leg room. (I would care about the leg room.) They also have a certain standard for Business and First, but as you point out, Hawaiian isn't charging the price for those classes that the airlines do that offer premium service in them.
I would still prefer a 777 to a 767 because the stability in flight seems much greater to me. A 777 feels like a big living room in the air, but on our flight home on Hawaiian, which was of course ocean all the way, the winds buffeted the plane constantly and I didn't like it. But then it was a windy time in the Pacific that we went, not normal weather.
But when I was looking at equipment for Hawai'i to Asia flights (in 2008, so maybe it's changed), I noticed that none of the airlines were flying their best planes out of Hawai'i. They were flying the premium planes out of LAX and other mainland airports, and using 747's and 767's and the airbuses (for some), and they weren't fitted with lie flat seats in premium classes, or laptop ports, the state of the art was just not in play for Hawai'i.
That's really nice about the inter-island flights being included. [
]I've flown first on Hawaiian inter-island once and it was nothing I would pay much for as far as the flight went. I only did it as a $25 upgrade at check-in because my husband had had surgery and we wanted to use the lounge at the airport so he could lie down while we waited for a few hours.
The first class lounge for inter-island is not fancy at all but if you have any kind of wait between connections it is nice to be able to use it.
I've been reading Bill Bryson's book "In a Sunburned Country" in bits and pieces. Very funny.