06-17-2012, 05:01 AM
quote:Yes, you completely misunderstood me. If you knew my background, you would know that I don't need to have these things defined to me. I've spent much time in my life discussing the fine points of racism, due to the diverse and wonderful places I have lived and gone to school and worked.
Originally posted by coppercoin40
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Originally posted by KathyH
Too much domestic violence and abuse ...
Really a place for local families in my mind.
Others will disagree.
KathyH, not meaning to call you out here but I have reread this comment several times trying to determine just what you meant here.
As written it sounds almost prejudicial:
prejudicial - tending to favor preconceived ideas; "the presence of discriminatory or prejudicial attitudes in the white population" prejudicious
Did I misunderstand you? Your statement makes it sound as if Ainaloa is a place of domestic abuse and violence - a place for local families. The local families part makes me think "local" meaning Native Hawaiians.
Are you really publicly categorizing Native Hawaiians as violent and domestic abusers? Violent and abusive nature has no color, denomination, or heritage boundaries.
Please clarify, I hope I am wrong in my understanding of your statement.
Re what I said -- My two sentences weren't tied together. It was two separate reasons, one under the other. You connected them and that is how you drew a wrong interpretation of what I meant.
2) "local" does not mean Native Hawaiian, so don't ever jump to that conclusion. Local
embraces a variety of heritages and means born and bred here. But it has shades of meaning that you learn when you live here.
It's not a negative term and I wasn't using it negatively. I cherish and admire a great deal about local culture, but it takes time to assimilate here and some folks will never let you in.
It can be a very tight community and not too open to newcomers. That's what my second sentence meant -- not the best SD to pick if you are FOB (fresh off the boat).
3) re domestic violence-- it was just a fact there have been notable cases of violence and abuse there. The why and who of domestic violence is complex and I'm no sociologist. But it's cultural, not racial, and it's found in many faces many places.
My brief comment was based on stories I've heard in the media combined with stories from people. You live here for a while and when a bad story hits the news and you hear the perp or perps in question resided in a certain subdivision, you aren't surprised, tends to be the same ones time and time. Ainaloa is one of them.
Domestic violence is a huge problem on the island, and that is just a fact. Go sit in the court and listen to the TRO hearings and the stories being told if you want a firsthand look at what goes on, or spend time in the ER and listen, or at the receiving room at the police station. All of which I've done in the last year. Or volunteer for one of the programs that helps victims. (when you live here).
There's a lot of wonderful stuff and also some dark stuff that happens here. I think it's easy to arrive all starry-eyed and in denial of any bad.. Some others go the opposite and over-react and freak out about crime. I think reality is somewhere in the middle.