08-02-2012, 06:27 AM
Carey, the problem there is that the bosses, the pilots, the County (whichever county)... simply do not care. Besides, them telling their pilots to do this or that is not in their best interests (they're after the almighty dollar, remember that).
The people who have jurisdiction over them reside in the FAA. Those are the people to talk to. And - note this - follow up with. When you do submit a report, be consistent and tenacious.
Below is the direct line contacts for two FAA people on Oahu. These gents are responsible for the air tours that fly over our houses. They are NOT responsible for the green harvest - that's the almighty GOV. (Note also that while the State cancelled GH, the Feds did not. That's why we still see them. Up close. And. Personal.) Further, they are not responsible for anything that falls under fire, rescue, lost cats/people, whatever.
Two things to remember about these FAA people:
- They will never know about an infraction unless YOU bring it to their attention (and follow up), and;
- They are not responsible for the pilots flying like asses. But they do have the ability to assess penalties; this is their gig and within their jurisdiction.
And, they are simply doing their jobs, so please be professional and kind and respectful to them; it will take this effort (to stop/change these flights) much much further than dis'ing on them. If we all as a community just start shoveling complaints at them with no forethought, no background info, and no detail or reason for the complaint other than "this sucks!", they will surely ignore us. Wouldn't you?
Above them (and enforcement of current laws), we are talking about a law change. This is done via our elected peoples. We must talk with them, regularly, to keep this issue on the radar.
Again, I think if we can gather ourselves behind this collectively, write our reps/senators (upcoming election - how do THOSE people stand on this issue??), and be clear on what we want (stop air tour overflights over our communities), we may find ourselves being heard. Hopefully.
Just saying...
Here's the contact info:
Charles Carlos Cantu
Charles.Cantu@faa.gov
Frontline Manager, Air Tour Unit
Honolulu Flight Standards District Office
Federal Aviation Administration
(808) 837-8367
David S. Ryon
David.S.Ryon@faa.gov
Principal Operations Inspector
WP-HNL-FSDO
(808) 837-8323
Finally... did you sign this petition???
http://www.change.org/petitions/modify-h...opter-laws
-- rainshadow
The people who have jurisdiction over them reside in the FAA. Those are the people to talk to. And - note this - follow up with. When you do submit a report, be consistent and tenacious.
Below is the direct line contacts for two FAA people on Oahu. These gents are responsible for the air tours that fly over our houses. They are NOT responsible for the green harvest - that's the almighty GOV. (Note also that while the State cancelled GH, the Feds did not. That's why we still see them. Up close. And. Personal.) Further, they are not responsible for anything that falls under fire, rescue, lost cats/people, whatever.
Two things to remember about these FAA people:
- They will never know about an infraction unless YOU bring it to their attention (and follow up), and;
- They are not responsible for the pilots flying like asses. But they do have the ability to assess penalties; this is their gig and within their jurisdiction.
And, they are simply doing their jobs, so please be professional and kind and respectful to them; it will take this effort (to stop/change these flights) much much further than dis'ing on them. If we all as a community just start shoveling complaints at them with no forethought, no background info, and no detail or reason for the complaint other than "this sucks!", they will surely ignore us. Wouldn't you?
Above them (and enforcement of current laws), we are talking about a law change. This is done via our elected peoples. We must talk with them, regularly, to keep this issue on the radar.
Again, I think if we can gather ourselves behind this collectively, write our reps/senators (upcoming election - how do THOSE people stand on this issue??), and be clear on what we want (stop air tour overflights over our communities), we may find ourselves being heard. Hopefully.
Just saying...
Here's the contact info:
Charles Carlos Cantu
Charles.Cantu@faa.gov
Frontline Manager, Air Tour Unit
Honolulu Flight Standards District Office
Federal Aviation Administration
(808) 837-8367
David S. Ryon
David.S.Ryon@faa.gov
Principal Operations Inspector
WP-HNL-FSDO
(808) 837-8323
Finally... did you sign this petition???
http://www.change.org/petitions/modify-h...opter-laws
-- rainshadow
-- rainshadow