04-02-2013, 11:49 AM
Seems like I've gleaned the following invaluable points out of this thread:
- The speed limit is changing
- The highway is pretty much a death crap shoot
- Most everyone agrees that local drivers here pretty much suck
- About half of everyone here believes it's their (the local hawaii drivers) fault that they (the local hawaii drivers) suck, and not themselves (us local hawaii drivers) that are playing any part in the issue
- There seems to be a leaning towards safety (thankfully)
- Some (most) perceive safety is more probable at 45mph
- Some believe safety is more probable at 55-65mph
- And some don't really care, as long as they can drive whatever speed they choose, whenever that may be
Hats off to Russell. We'd never have had this deep discussion if not for him.
As for myself? Let's get the limit down to 35mph; I don't live here to rush around on other peoples a$$#s trying to get somewhere that probably isn't ultra-critical to get to. And while we're (err... I'm) at it (expressing personal opinions, that is), let's raise the gas prices to around $10+ gallon. I know I would personally see value from that, on our roads. Probably pretty quickly.
Since neither of those will happen in the near term (well, one more likely than the other), I'll continue to bike commute, in off hours, on secondary roads when possible, in full safety gear. Which brings up (completely off topic, you're witnessing an age thing...) the fact that most bedroom communities I've had experience with have had pretty good commuter transportation options. I know we're slowly getting bus service, but what about vanpools? More park and rides (beyond the Hui)? Other?
Helicopters???
-- rainshadow
- The speed limit is changing
- The highway is pretty much a death crap shoot
- Most everyone agrees that local drivers here pretty much suck
- About half of everyone here believes it's their (the local hawaii drivers) fault that they (the local hawaii drivers) suck, and not themselves (us local hawaii drivers) that are playing any part in the issue
- There seems to be a leaning towards safety (thankfully)
- Some (most) perceive safety is more probable at 45mph
- Some believe safety is more probable at 55-65mph
- And some don't really care, as long as they can drive whatever speed they choose, whenever that may be
Hats off to Russell. We'd never have had this deep discussion if not for him.
As for myself? Let's get the limit down to 35mph; I don't live here to rush around on other peoples a$$#s trying to get somewhere that probably isn't ultra-critical to get to. And while we're (err... I'm) at it (expressing personal opinions, that is), let's raise the gas prices to around $10+ gallon. I know I would personally see value from that, on our roads. Probably pretty quickly.
Since neither of those will happen in the near term (well, one more likely than the other), I'll continue to bike commute, in off hours, on secondary roads when possible, in full safety gear. Which brings up (completely off topic, you're witnessing an age thing...) the fact that most bedroom communities I've had experience with have had pretty good commuter transportation options. I know we're slowly getting bus service, but what about vanpools? More park and rides (beyond the Hui)? Other?
Helicopters???
-- rainshadow
-- rainshadow