01-31-2014, 01:21 PM
Punababa, thanks, looks like I got the moon phase wrong, will recheck later.
There is a problem with your scenario that he did not mean to take her life. All the evidence points to her strangulation occurring, as I pointed out, a football field away from the tent, where the drag marks to the cliff started. The tent showed no signs of any argument, per the police affidavit.
If they got into an argument out on the lava away from camp, then if he had a sudden terrible rage he would have to use his hands for it to happen in the moment. The fact that a rope was used means he would have had to go get the rope and would have had time to think about it.
Or if she ran out there and he pursued her, again he would have needed to grab the rope, and that involves an intent to kill her. No one (not into S&M) would go after a girlfriend with a rope without the intent to cause serious harm or death.
His sister Sarah talked about this in her post, that she cannot imagine him losing touch with what he was doing long enough to get a rope and use it.
If they had been fighting in the tent and he had become enraged and there was rope right there at hand, that would work with a crime of sudden passion where he got carried away.
It is still possible that he killed her, but with the crime scene evidence we have right now, I think you might adjust your theory of his state of mind to something much more out of sync with the person people thought he was.
I never said that there should have been witnesses or suggested it was likely in these circumstances. I was pointing out the lack of positive proof to support the assumptions and conclusions. Certain kinds of proof may not be likely to exist, I grant, but that does not invalidate the need for proof before a conclusion is solid.
If it turns out there is no proof, for whatever reason, then it is not proven. It is unsolved.
Brittany was not involved in the land purchase as a buyer or contributor of funds, but she had told her parents she intended to live there and had certain plans that excited her. Sure the plans may seem impractical to us, but Brittany was an optimist who believed she could manifest her dreams despite obstacles.
Yes, they may have indeed have had a terrible fight that ended tragically, but the reasons you put forth do not jibe with what her family has told us about the coupleÔs attitude towards camping on the lava. YouÔre projecting how YOUR wife would feel about it.
quote:I do consider the possible scenario of a domestic dispute, of course. I already said so in an earlier post. I believe it is possible but not proven, and not the only possibility. The standard for proof of murder is beyond reasonable doubt, not itÔs a possibility.
Originally posted by Punababa
Please consider the possibility that there could have been an argument either over an impending land purchase or some other very personal matter and Bo just lost control, he did not mean or planned to take her life but it just happened
There is a problem with your scenario that he did not mean to take her life. All the evidence points to her strangulation occurring, as I pointed out, a football field away from the tent, where the drag marks to the cliff started. The tent showed no signs of any argument, per the police affidavit.
If they got into an argument out on the lava away from camp, then if he had a sudden terrible rage he would have to use his hands for it to happen in the moment. The fact that a rope was used means he would have had to go get the rope and would have had time to think about it.
Or if she ran out there and he pursued her, again he would have needed to grab the rope, and that involves an intent to kill her. No one (not into S&M) would go after a girlfriend with a rope without the intent to cause serious harm or death.
His sister Sarah talked about this in her post, that she cannot imagine him losing touch with what he was doing long enough to get a rope and use it.
If they had been fighting in the tent and he had become enraged and there was rope right there at hand, that would work with a crime of sudden passion where he got carried away.
It is still possible that he killed her, but with the crime scene evidence we have right now, I think you might adjust your theory of his state of mind to something much more out of sync with the person people thought he was.
quote:YouÔre making a straw man argument. I never said I expected any such thing, but you are using an example that is ludicrous that is made up by you to discredit my point.
now in this scenario do you expect him to call people to witness ??? ,
I never said that there should have been witnesses or suggested it was likely in these circumstances. I was pointing out the lack of positive proof to support the assumptions and conclusions. Certain kinds of proof may not be likely to exist, I grant, but that does not invalidate the need for proof before a conclusion is solid.
If it turns out there is no proof, for whatever reason, then it is not proven. It is unsolved.
quote:As far as BrittanyÔs state of mind, we do not know what it was like in her very last moments, but her mother posted to this topic that Brittany loved being out on the lava. Also she was not going to spend her pregnancy out there. Bo had already located a rental in the vicinity, which he was going to secure for her greater physical comfort. BrittanyÔs mother also made the point that Brittany was not like those of us who would find the lifestyle too harsh.
Brittany was not part of the land purchase maybe she did not like the idea of spending her pregnancy duration in a hot Lava field, she probably wanted something more comfortable , its just motherly instinct to protect the baby
Brittany was not involved in the land purchase as a buyer or contributor of funds, but she had told her parents she intended to live there and had certain plans that excited her. Sure the plans may seem impractical to us, but Brittany was an optimist who believed she could manifest her dreams despite obstacles.
Yes, they may have indeed have had a terrible fight that ended tragically, but the reasons you put forth do not jibe with what her family has told us about the coupleÔs attitude towards camping on the lava. YouÔre projecting how YOUR wife would feel about it.