05-09-2014, 09:30 AM
quote:snorkle, your understanding of my past relationship with Tiffany is completely incorrect. You could not be more wrong, but that is not surprising, because you were never part of it.
Originally posted by snorkle
Kathy was a big supporter of Tiffany until Tiff call BS on Kathy's "armchair detective" work awhile back. Kathy is one of those who is offended by Tiffany's brutal honesty and no one should expect anything positive. So far her criticism is centered on some typos.
Instead of repeating ad nauseam Tiffany's editing problems, I'd like to hear from Kathy why exactly she would support someone else. (Because they're not Tiffany, perhaps, and haven't criticized Kathy?)
Who do you support Kathy, and why?
This topic is not about my relationship with Tiffany, so I'm not going to jump through your hoop in a long defense against your silly assumptions.
I will say that I admire candor (brutal honesty). Unfortunately, I found Tiffany LACKING in candor, unable to be straightforward and take ownership of some of her actions.
As I said in my first comment here, I was from the first predisposed to admire Tiffany, but she lost my respect along the way. It was NOT due to any criticism of my thinking on the Royal murder. I respect differing opinions. I had been troubled by what I saw her doing long before that.
Her behavior at the end of that case troubled me in that she appointed herself as the keeper of the truth and told people to believe her without offering any facts to support herself. This is definitely not a personality trait that I would appreciate in an elected official.
Aside from that, I no longer have any faith that Tiffany won't delude herself into blurring ethical boundaries. I have seen her cite ethics on her blog and then blur or ignore the boundaries repeatedly.
Who do I like in the Puna race? I am waiting to hear from the other candidates. Right now, all I know is that Tiffany is the wrong choice for this position, and it is indeed a concern that Zendo is not running again, as I have a good opinion of him from what I have seen.
Who and what do I support? I already listed qualities I admire in Val Poindexter, my representative.
snorkle, you must have heard the old lawyer's adage (of many variants).
If the facts are not on your side, argue the law.
If the law is not on your side, argue the facts.
If neither the facts nor the law are on your side, make an ad hominem attack.
A lot of people, when they see repeated ad hominem attacks such as yours and Ken's, understand that you are resorting to attacking me because you have nothing better to offer as a response.
The fallacy in your logic is that I'm not asking anyone to take my word on Tiffany's character, so what anyone thinks of me is beside the point.
The flaws I am talking about and that others here have experienced are for the most part public and in print. I am only pointing to what can be plainly seen if people choose to look at the record. Even if my motives were as petty as you claim (they are not), that would have no bearing on the public record she has created with her blog and other venues, which supports my points. You need to engage with the negative parts of her record, not with me.
Ditto for those of you who attack Rob for having an unwavering opinion about her suitability. Don't attack Rob for expressing his viewpoint. Look at the points he is making.
I actually supported Tiffany on Punaweb in her fight against rezoning, which I can readily admit I regret. I didn't want to believe she could be making her argument about the potential for a slaughterhouse on Main Street out of pure fear of competition. As I said, I was predisposed to think she was the pillar of righteousness she claimed to be. I later saw that she absolutely would do whatever it takes to protect her family's business.
Every single thing that Tiffany does for the community, either benefits her economic existence or boosts her ego. I know people on this island who volunteer tirelessly, who have done so for years, who don't advertise what they do. When praised, they point out the actions of a fellow volunteer and say credit this person.
Every community effort that Tiffany partakes in, she has made sure to advertise on her blog. To me that says she has been building a resume. This is the election year that she pulls out the resume and uses it as a stepping stone to a job that she wants. Councilperson is a job that will pay extremely well relative to her current situation, and is a position that will boost her ego to the moon (at first).
If you want me to believe that Tiffany has worked selflessly for the community, show me the list of her efforts that were never publicized.