06-27-2014, 02:51 AM
You need to research more about Cliven Bundy. He is a complicated character and an outright racist. Plus his family was not the first people on that land even though they have grazed cattle on that land for a century. The first people on that land paid their dues and the ones that were left alive continue to pay grazing fees. Those people might help you understand why generations deep locals and native Hawaiians might make exclamations of pride and assert that they were born here. It is a reminder to not treat them as if they are invisible. You can see this in many areas that have been throttled by imperialism. The black americans who are descended from slaves tend to assert themselves and their heritage for a similar reason because they have been pushed all over the map for centuries and they have developed ways over time to let those who do the pushing know that they are still there and not disposable.
This Cliven Bundy reference though has little to do with Puna though and very little to do with people showing pride about where they were born. Cliven Bundy is a sick man and makes us americans look like a joke. Not really an appropriate comparison. People exclaiming pride about where they are from doesn't have anything to do with how they view other people. It is a statement regarding pride in their heritage and the land. If this threatens you or hurts your feelings. You need to take a look at yourself. In America culture is stolen and a poor replacement is sold back to people, like ham and pineapple pizza. So it is important to hold your culture close to your heart. Someone can be proud of where they were born and still love their neighbor. This is the land of aloha for crying out loud. Mainlanders do have much to learn from those who were already here. Just like Cliven Bundy has allot to learn from the native Americans who have been on that land much longer than him.
I mean imagine a bunch of Hawaiians rolled up on a government building with a bunch of guns demanding their land back. There would be a blood bath but Cliven Bundy's racist a** does it and they give the land back even though they have been breaking the law. This type of stuff make all you 2nd amendment people look bad and like you support white supremacy. There is nothing comparable to that in the Hawaiian culture.
For the record, I think people should maintain the right to bear arms but people who are crazy, like Cliven Bundy, should be able to be identified and kept away from guns.
This Cliven Bundy reference though has little to do with Puna though and very little to do with people showing pride about where they were born. Cliven Bundy is a sick man and makes us americans look like a joke. Not really an appropriate comparison. People exclaiming pride about where they are from doesn't have anything to do with how they view other people. It is a statement regarding pride in their heritage and the land. If this threatens you or hurts your feelings. You need to take a look at yourself. In America culture is stolen and a poor replacement is sold back to people, like ham and pineapple pizza. So it is important to hold your culture close to your heart. Someone can be proud of where they were born and still love their neighbor. This is the land of aloha for crying out loud. Mainlanders do have much to learn from those who were already here. Just like Cliven Bundy has allot to learn from the native Americans who have been on that land much longer than him.
I mean imagine a bunch of Hawaiians rolled up on a government building with a bunch of guns demanding their land back. There would be a blood bath but Cliven Bundy's racist a** does it and they give the land back even though they have been breaking the law. This type of stuff make all you 2nd amendment people look bad and like you support white supremacy. There is nothing comparable to that in the Hawaiian culture.
For the record, I think people should maintain the right to bear arms but people who are crazy, like Cliven Bundy, should be able to be identified and kept away from guns.