07-03-2014, 04:21 AM
I Thought HPP was more like 8000 lots?
I'd have to check my sources, but the point is somewhat academic when you consider that HPP is just one of several very large subdivisions that all empty onto a 2-lane highway.
I think there's about another 4000 lots in Orchidland, and that doesn't count HB/HSRE, Ainaloa, Tiki Gardens... (let's just pretend that Nanavale and the Red Road subdivisions will get everything in Pahoa, so not add to the Hilo traffic load, hahaha).
Similar situation already exists in upper Puna with rush-hour congestion on 11 as people drive home to Volcano, Mountain View, Kurtistown, etc.
Pretty sure none of them are over one-third occupied.... (going even further off-topic now...)
My favorite part of the whole equation: zero civic planning means no room was left for widening any of the roads -- and any potential "through road" already has people living on it who don't want the additional traffic. Progress is going to require different thinking, because the "everyone drives their individual car to the designated commercial zone" paradigm is already not working. (No, the existing "public transit" is not a solution either, at least not in its current form.)
I'd have to check my sources, but the point is somewhat academic when you consider that HPP is just one of several very large subdivisions that all empty onto a 2-lane highway.
I think there's about another 4000 lots in Orchidland, and that doesn't count HB/HSRE, Ainaloa, Tiki Gardens... (let's just pretend that Nanavale and the Red Road subdivisions will get everything in Pahoa, so not add to the Hilo traffic load, hahaha).
Similar situation already exists in upper Puna with rush-hour congestion on 11 as people drive home to Volcano, Mountain View, Kurtistown, etc.
Pretty sure none of them are over one-third occupied.... (going even further off-topic now...)
My favorite part of the whole equation: zero civic planning means no room was left for widening any of the roads -- and any potential "through road" already has people living on it who don't want the additional traffic. Progress is going to require different thinking, because the "everyone drives their individual car to the designated commercial zone" paradigm is already not working. (No, the existing "public transit" is not a solution either, at least not in its current form.)