09-10-2014, 02:21 PM
Wow. I leave the room for a couple days... you guys are really being vicious to each other. Except for TomK. Well done, Tom. So it's rounding out to be Oneself and somebody called "protoss" against the rest of y'all, eh? Okay, but it also seems to me as though everybody who got offended by the SIMPLE remark felt perfectly comfortable calling Oneself a "little bitch" and all sorts of other names. Act like you deserve respect and it may be more easily forthcoming.
Now I know I'm gonna get blasted for even stepping into this thread, but what the hell. Here's my 2 cents. I love a myth as much as the next guy. Really. I find myth and legend enriching in many ways. And I allow for others who may even believe that Pele is more than allegory. I do not, but hey, host culture, etc. What I'd also like to say however, is that those who advocate the positive aspects of Science are not "western" ... they are simply people for whom belief is less valuable than verifiable experiment. And that is the difference between your belief system and what I and perhaps others call scientific fact. Beliefs are lovely. You have yours. I have mine, but I can't give you a set of instructions which, if you followed them, would lead you to the wisdom of my belief system. Science can, however, provide a set of instructions that can be carried out by skeptical non-believers, who, if they perform the experiment correctly, will arrive at the same conclusion, no matter what their beliefs. That is Science, and that is different from Myth, Legend, Belief.
Now I know I'm gonna get blasted for even stepping into this thread, but what the hell. Here's my 2 cents. I love a myth as much as the next guy. Really. I find myth and legend enriching in many ways. And I allow for others who may even believe that Pele is more than allegory. I do not, but hey, host culture, etc. What I'd also like to say however, is that those who advocate the positive aspects of Science are not "western" ... they are simply people for whom belief is less valuable than verifiable experiment. And that is the difference between your belief system and what I and perhaps others call scientific fact. Beliefs are lovely. You have yours. I have mine, but I can't give you a set of instructions which, if you followed them, would lead you to the wisdom of my belief system. Science can, however, provide a set of instructions that can be carried out by skeptical non-believers, who, if they perform the experiment correctly, will arrive at the same conclusion, no matter what their beliefs. That is Science, and that is different from Myth, Legend, Belief.