08-15-2018, 06:35 AM
A week or so ago on the 2018 Lava Flow Emergency Forum, EightFingers asked a simple, relatively innocent question:
So who “owns” fissure 8?
The answers and suggestions which followed offered a number of ideas, with kalakoa noting, "whatever is convenient for the State".
Now we hear on Punatalk:
The $680 million dollar plan for Puna
BillyB quoted from a news article linked by reni that the entirety of Lealani Estates may be included in the buyout:
"Takemoto said that amount is based on the cost of purchasing land at 100 percent of the pre-disaster value for properties that are inundated or isolated, and for the remaining properties in Leilani Estates."
OK now it becomes clear;
Yes! Now it becomes crystal clear - - What is in Fissure 8, of such great value that the government is willing to spend so much money to snatch it (legally) from the legitimate owners? You can bet it's not just "cinder."*
It would be far too obvious if officials simply made a payout to the owners of Fissure 8 claiming persistent and imminent danger. It would also not provide big and small government with a buffer zone to prevent people from watching them.
Here are the facts:
1) Since the eruption, we have not been allowed near the fissures or the lava due to "safety concerns." Oh really? Or is it because THERE IS SOMETHING IN THE LAVA? Gold? Diamonds? Geo-Thermal Heat Source?
2) The eruption has abated, but restrictions have not been lifted, while the $680 million plan "For Puna" has been under secret negotiation. Coincidence?
3) The money is not just for Leilani Estates but "properties that are inundated" in other words, properties under precious lava, so again, I ask, WHAT IS IN THE LAVA?
What do you think? Conspiracies have already been floated on other threads, but I thought it might be expedient to gather them together under a single heading, to evaluate, contrast and compare their various attributes. Given the response we've witnessed so far by County, State, and Federal officials, I don't believe any ideas, suggestions, or theories can be considered too far fetched. The truth, as they say on television, is out there. (and sometimes way out there)
* Personally, I would bet it's just cinder. But that doesn't make for much of a conspiracy.
“What you’re seeing and what you’re reading is not what’s happening.” - President Donald J. Trump, 7/25/18
So who “owns” fissure 8?
The answers and suggestions which followed offered a number of ideas, with kalakoa noting, "whatever is convenient for the State".
Now we hear on Punatalk:
The $680 million dollar plan for Puna
BillyB quoted from a news article linked by reni that the entirety of Lealani Estates may be included in the buyout:
"Takemoto said that amount is based on the cost of purchasing land at 100 percent of the pre-disaster value for properties that are inundated or isolated, and for the remaining properties in Leilani Estates."
OK now it becomes clear;
Yes! Now it becomes crystal clear - - What is in Fissure 8, of such great value that the government is willing to spend so much money to snatch it (legally) from the legitimate owners? You can bet it's not just "cinder."*
It would be far too obvious if officials simply made a payout to the owners of Fissure 8 claiming persistent and imminent danger. It would also not provide big and small government with a buffer zone to prevent people from watching them.
Here are the facts:
1) Since the eruption, we have not been allowed near the fissures or the lava due to "safety concerns." Oh really? Or is it because THERE IS SOMETHING IN THE LAVA? Gold? Diamonds? Geo-Thermal Heat Source?
2) The eruption has abated, but restrictions have not been lifted, while the $680 million plan "For Puna" has been under secret negotiation. Coincidence?
3) The money is not just for Leilani Estates but "properties that are inundated" in other words, properties under precious lava, so again, I ask, WHAT IS IN THE LAVA?
What do you think? Conspiracies have already been floated on other threads, but I thought it might be expedient to gather them together under a single heading, to evaluate, contrast and compare their various attributes. Given the response we've witnessed so far by County, State, and Federal officials, I don't believe any ideas, suggestions, or theories can be considered too far fetched. The truth, as they say on television, is out there. (and sometimes way out there)
* Personally, I would bet it's just cinder. But that doesn't make for much of a conspiracy.
“What you’re seeing and what you’re reading is not what’s happening.” - President Donald J. Trump, 7/25/18
"I'm at that stage in life where I stay out of discussions. Even if you say 1+1=5, you're right - have fun." - Keanu Reeves