04-16-2015, 11:27 AM
Originally posted by PunaMauka2
ironyak, your psuedo-objective rationality awash in fawning adulation is becoming amusing.
Well, I never - is that an ad hominem? And from the most unlikely of sources. How the esteemed have fallen to stoop to such tactics! (All pseudo-jesting and amusement aside, your posts on this topic seem oddly out of character IMO.)
If you are referring to my note to opihikao, her voice will be missed, not because I agree with her (we almost never do) but precisely because we don't agree in ways that are both challenging and eye-opening. Also, she tends to raise both the mood and standards of the conversations she takes part in (as she's done here), which is clearly much needed of late.
We have lost many valuable members recently, often because of ugly behavior from a small few. This lack of viewpoints and participation is a real loss to us all and something I think we should all consider how to prevent and remedy.
If you are referring to my response to you and rainyjim, perhaps you can tackle the substance of what I said? How do you not see the Mauna Kea issue as an example of the tradition of principled protest?
In reviewing this thread I feel I've laid criticisms on both sides of the issue, both against those who I do hold in respect, and those who it is best not to even acknowledge (Dawn take you all! - I read somewhere that should work
Not to fawn, but given what appears to be a keen intellect you've better demonstrated elsewhere, I am honestly interested in your views and welcome any response either here or by email. Cheers!
ironyak, your psuedo-objective rationality awash in fawning adulation is becoming amusing.
Well, I never - is that an ad hominem? And from the most unlikely of sources. How the esteemed have fallen to stoop to such tactics! (All pseudo-jesting and amusement aside, your posts on this topic seem oddly out of character IMO.)
If you are referring to my note to opihikao, her voice will be missed, not because I agree with her (we almost never do) but precisely because we don't agree in ways that are both challenging and eye-opening. Also, she tends to raise both the mood and standards of the conversations she takes part in (as she's done here), which is clearly much needed of late.
We have lost many valuable members recently, often because of ugly behavior from a small few. This lack of viewpoints and participation is a real loss to us all and something I think we should all consider how to prevent and remedy.
If you are referring to my response to you and rainyjim, perhaps you can tackle the substance of what I said? How do you not see the Mauna Kea issue as an example of the tradition of principled protest?
In reviewing this thread I feel I've laid criticisms on both sides of the issue, both against those who I do hold in respect, and those who it is best not to even acknowledge (Dawn take you all! - I read somewhere that should work
Not to fawn, but given what appears to be a keen intellect you've better demonstrated elsewhere, I am honestly interested in your views and welcome any response either here or by email. Cheers!