04-25-2015, 04:43 AM
This may just be the tip of the iceburg? Tomk, sorry to hear you and your crew are having to learn to protect yourselves. This one guys rant can and will be very contagious to these folks who are against The TMT project. These folks have been standing strong for decades now trying to protect Maunakea, their peoples history and future. Some of these protesters lack the same education and feel as if they are not being respected or heard. Yet the university and many visitors continue to drive past many sacred sites on their way up or down this grand mountain with no respect or knowledge of these people or their mountains history.
Middle ground is a very large grey area at the moment, the need for a good negotiator has come. Both sides will need to be truly heard, this will take time (Hawaiian time). This time can be used to clean the current messes up at the summit by packing and decommissioning a couple of the older telescopes as promised. Also time is needed to allow the courts their decisions to these and other sensitive issues involving hundreds and thousands of native Hawaiians.
Certainly i do not condone these types of threats, yet when warriors are backed into a corner or being shoved off their mountain, some will choose to stand, protect, and fight. Many things have changed since the experiments and contracts for these observatories first started atop maunakea. Obviously things have gone good for the observatory folks as the telescopes are only getting bigger and costing billions instead of millions. Can't say this has been an equal blessing for most of the folks who have had to watch the desecration of their sacred mountain and some important history. Money, respect, and promises seem to be the big issues, so time and patients will be essential to moving forward together. Jmo's.
P.S. I survived many kill hoale days here on this beautiful island, it has only made me stronger and more compassionate towards all mankind. Welcome to the jungle big business.
Middle ground is a very large grey area at the moment, the need for a good negotiator has come. Both sides will need to be truly heard, this will take time (Hawaiian time). This time can be used to clean the current messes up at the summit by packing and decommissioning a couple of the older telescopes as promised. Also time is needed to allow the courts their decisions to these and other sensitive issues involving hundreds and thousands of native Hawaiians.
Certainly i do not condone these types of threats, yet when warriors are backed into a corner or being shoved off their mountain, some will choose to stand, protect, and fight. Many things have changed since the experiments and contracts for these observatories first started atop maunakea. Obviously things have gone good for the observatory folks as the telescopes are only getting bigger and costing billions instead of millions. Can't say this has been an equal blessing for most of the folks who have had to watch the desecration of their sacred mountain and some important history. Money, respect, and promises seem to be the big issues, so time and patients will be essential to moving forward together. Jmo's.
P.S. I survived many kill hoale days here on this beautiful island, it has only made me stronger and more compassionate towards all mankind. Welcome to the jungle big business.