05-19-2015, 08:34 PM
Good to hear meetings are taking place again between Tmt and Maunakea protectors. Great news to hear they are taking place here on the east side in Laupahoehoe, even a better place would be here in hilo? Been hearing plenty of people wanting to see compromise between the parties but not many really know how, why, or what of exactly?
Some ideas I have heard have been pretty good like, build the TMT while decommissioning 3-5 of the current and soon to be out dated telescopes atop maunakea? Some say the decommissioned telescopes would be great for local public and charter school children use? Others have said let them build the Tmt on merit,promises, and good faith. Some say start fresh in five to ten years with new permits and contracts. Most locals or Hawaiians I LISTEN to say those same famous words spoken by childhood disney movie character Pinocchio's good friend and conscious, the cricket," Enough is Enough already".
Saw where the county and state are very thankful and somewhat dependent on the observatories community spending? The united states government pays about $ 30,000,000 million a year in salaries alone to the good science folks from around the world who work in the 13 currently operating telescopes atop maunakea. thats about $ 80,000 a year for each planet or star researcher currently working atop maunakea before the building of the Tmt. If Hawaii loses these observatories, they lose the hundreds of workers who spend some of their money here.
Jmo here of course, good riddance and go back to where you came from. These so called science folks with degrees from classrooms around the world are taking jobs from locals. They are renting or buying the few available or affordable homes in the area while keeping the prices high for locals. They are helping the areas restaurants and grocery markets continue with the food inflation despite lower gas prices. Some of our islands public schools like Pahoa have free lunch for almost every keiki now and most locals qualify for ebt even though they work full time somewhere other than maunakea. When hawaii( big island)agreed to the first experimental observatory atop maunakea some 60 years ago, it was a special and very enchanting place most only visited or dreamed of. Now some 60 years later that old saying holds more merit than ever "If you have seen Waikiki you have seen hawaii?."
Jmo, Old Hawaii is at risk of being lost forever with the building of the Tmt. Hawaiian culture, beliefs, and general laid back hawaiian spirit, feeling, aloha, or vibe will be one step closer to extinction for many from here. Maunakeas secrets, wonders, world elusiveness as well as HA(breath) taking beauty will all but be exploited, abused, and altered by the TMT project.
P.S. sure would like to sit in one of those meetings, thats if they creap any closer to these highly affected parts of the island.
P.S.S. I thought maunakea had over 150 vents or craters or a ring of fire vents in the proposed TMT location? Only the highest ranks walked the trails to the gods, now anyone can drive?
Some ideas I have heard have been pretty good like, build the TMT while decommissioning 3-5 of the current and soon to be out dated telescopes atop maunakea? Some say the decommissioned telescopes would be great for local public and charter school children use? Others have said let them build the Tmt on merit,promises, and good faith. Some say start fresh in five to ten years with new permits and contracts. Most locals or Hawaiians I LISTEN to say those same famous words spoken by childhood disney movie character Pinocchio's good friend and conscious, the cricket," Enough is Enough already".
Saw where the county and state are very thankful and somewhat dependent on the observatories community spending? The united states government pays about $ 30,000,000 million a year in salaries alone to the good science folks from around the world who work in the 13 currently operating telescopes atop maunakea. thats about $ 80,000 a year for each planet or star researcher currently working atop maunakea before the building of the Tmt. If Hawaii loses these observatories, they lose the hundreds of workers who spend some of their money here.
Jmo here of course, good riddance and go back to where you came from. These so called science folks with degrees from classrooms around the world are taking jobs from locals. They are renting or buying the few available or affordable homes in the area while keeping the prices high for locals. They are helping the areas restaurants and grocery markets continue with the food inflation despite lower gas prices. Some of our islands public schools like Pahoa have free lunch for almost every keiki now and most locals qualify for ebt even though they work full time somewhere other than maunakea. When hawaii( big island)agreed to the first experimental observatory atop maunakea some 60 years ago, it was a special and very enchanting place most only visited or dreamed of. Now some 60 years later that old saying holds more merit than ever "If you have seen Waikiki you have seen hawaii?."
Jmo, Old Hawaii is at risk of being lost forever with the building of the Tmt. Hawaiian culture, beliefs, and general laid back hawaiian spirit, feeling, aloha, or vibe will be one step closer to extinction for many from here. Maunakeas secrets, wonders, world elusiveness as well as HA(breath) taking beauty will all but be exploited, abused, and altered by the TMT project.
P.S. sure would like to sit in one of those meetings, thats if they creap any closer to these highly affected parts of the island.
P.S.S. I thought maunakea had over 150 vents or craters or a ring of fire vents in the proposed TMT location? Only the highest ranks walked the trails to the gods, now anyone can drive?