HPP Biz

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Originally posted by pahoated

And the greatest need this new county within a county sees is a big park. Let's see, this is a bunch of people that can't figure out how to get their roads paved or figure out who their board members are plus a few other nuggets, and they are a threat to how this island has been run? What did this island do to deserve this kind of abuse?

"Aloha also means goodbye. Aloha!"

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PT is making quantum leaps in logic and putting words in people's mouths again I see. No where did I say anything about a county within a county.

The utter failure of the private subdivision board as a governance model is at fault, not the people who live under it. A community of 15-30,000 people cannot be effectively governed by a poorly designed community association with very limited powers. Hawaii County allowed all these subdivisions to be set up this way because they didn't expect anyone to actually move here, and certainly didn't want them to be able to effectively self govern if they did, for that would have threatened the power center that was Hilo at the time. Shear population size is going to do the same thing, without being "a county within a county." The tiny handful of HPP residents who post here are not representative of the subdivision as a whole, and only a fool or a fundamentally dishonest person would pretend they are.

From 2010 to 2013 The State of Hawaii's population grew by 3.6%

Based on the 2010 Census 27% of the people living in Hawaiian Paradise Park were under 18, these are not retired mainlanders, their parents are probably not retired mainlanders either. The State Hawaii as a whole was 22.3 % of the population under 18.

The population of over 65 in HPP was 10.5%, many of these probably are retired mainlanders. The State Hawaii as a whole was 14.3 % of the population over 65.

So HPP actually has fewer retirement age people and more children than the State of Hawaii as a whole, I think this disproves your oft cited factoid that the people moving into and living in HPP are virtually all short term mainland transplant retirees, the numbers tell a very different story.

http://quickfacts.census.gov/

Edited to add data for Hawaii