07-04-2015, 03:15 PM
Originally posted by Kalakoa:
"Seems like County could make a park on this piece of land without permission or cooperation from HPP. Why not just do that instead? (Unless the point is to engage HPP in "discussion" rather than actually "building a park"...)"
Easy answer: Any modifications, tree and/ or shrub removal, construction, etc that occurs makai of beach road would fall under double scrutiny because it is 1) so close to the ocean there would be the need for an EIS and 2) there is also some sort of sensitive area designation where all sorts of additional permits and permissions need to be acquired before any work could commence. Not sure of the exact terminology but I did wind up talking to a planner and someone in parks after some anonymous person clear-cut all the tall vegetation in the park a month or two ago. (I have to assume one of the nearby homeowners was trying to enhance their "ocean view" by taking matters into their own hands)
There may also be conflicts between state, county, and federal policies so my guess is that the County really doesn't want to put any effort into a project where they might have to do a lot of extra work. (or adhere to any higher level of governmental standards or scrutiny)
Any paving (like parking spaces) would probably require a wasterwater management plan and perhaps a septic system or drywell and quite frankly a lot of governmental employees are just plain uninspired and waiting for another vacation of for retirement.
"Seems like County could make a park on this piece of land without permission or cooperation from HPP. Why not just do that instead? (Unless the point is to engage HPP in "discussion" rather than actually "building a park"...)"
Easy answer: Any modifications, tree and/ or shrub removal, construction, etc that occurs makai of beach road would fall under double scrutiny because it is 1) so close to the ocean there would be the need for an EIS and 2) there is also some sort of sensitive area designation where all sorts of additional permits and permissions need to be acquired before any work could commence. Not sure of the exact terminology but I did wind up talking to a planner and someone in parks after some anonymous person clear-cut all the tall vegetation in the park a month or two ago. (I have to assume one of the nearby homeowners was trying to enhance their "ocean view" by taking matters into their own hands)
There may also be conflicts between state, county, and federal policies so my guess is that the County really doesn't want to put any effort into a project where they might have to do a lot of extra work. (or adhere to any higher level of governmental standards or scrutiny)
Any paving (like parking spaces) would probably require a wasterwater management plan and perhaps a septic system or drywell and quite frankly a lot of governmental employees are just plain uninspired and waiting for another vacation of for retirement.