08-23-2015, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by hppwatchdog:
Three points to help everyone to understand the bylaws.
1. In the bylaws it says that the board is the ultimate authority over business, they don't have to act on any vote from the members at the general membership. Since this act is in the bylaws RR doesn't matter.
Please reference where it says this in HPP's bylaws watchdog. And regarding RR's, our bylaws state our board and membership meetings are to be conducted in accordance w/RR's. That's why it's adopted every year per HPP's bylaws.
2. Remember this is a board meeting and owner input isn't a requirement.
That is correct but it has been past practice.
3. The association is a business and run by the board, even though they give the members a forum to speak doesn't mean that they have to listen. A member is a share holder in a corporation and the members need to stay out of the business that they elected members to run the association.
HPP's bylaws state otherwise..."Article IV-Objects and Purposes.(a) To ascertain the needs and desires of lot owners of the Hawaiian Paradise Park subdivision and represent those needs and desires as appropriate. (e) To foster an atmosphere of cooperation and harmony that encourages the participation of lot owners in the management and operation of the Association." The majority board has conducted themselves adversely to these bylaws for over a year now. Describing members concerned over how some of this board spends our big monies as "scrappy residents" couldn't be clearer in their attitude.
That's the biggest problem, all these members trying to run the corporation, if you want that authority, GET ON THE BOARD or abide by the bylaws.
"Get on the board"? That's not going to happen if you've got experience or knowledge in HPP affairs. You aren't welcome. You've forgotten that friends of your's, board members who had experience resigned because of this. 6 board members left in one year. That's got to be a record and it speaks volumes about volunteers not wanting to work w/bylaw breaking board members. Many committee members have quit for the same reasons. Who should abide by the bylaws watchdog? You're speaking to the wrong entity. Members aren't breaking bylaws..it's the majority board.
Three points to help everyone to understand the bylaws.
1. In the bylaws it says that the board is the ultimate authority over business, they don't have to act on any vote from the members at the general membership. Since this act is in the bylaws RR doesn't matter.
Please reference where it says this in HPP's bylaws watchdog. And regarding RR's, our bylaws state our board and membership meetings are to be conducted in accordance w/RR's. That's why it's adopted every year per HPP's bylaws.
2. Remember this is a board meeting and owner input isn't a requirement.
That is correct but it has been past practice.
3. The association is a business and run by the board, even though they give the members a forum to speak doesn't mean that they have to listen. A member is a share holder in a corporation and the members need to stay out of the business that they elected members to run the association.
HPP's bylaws state otherwise..."Article IV-Objects and Purposes.(a) To ascertain the needs and desires of lot owners of the Hawaiian Paradise Park subdivision and represent those needs and desires as appropriate. (e) To foster an atmosphere of cooperation and harmony that encourages the participation of lot owners in the management and operation of the Association." The majority board has conducted themselves adversely to these bylaws for over a year now. Describing members concerned over how some of this board spends our big monies as "scrappy residents" couldn't be clearer in their attitude.
That's the biggest problem, all these members trying to run the corporation, if you want that authority, GET ON THE BOARD or abide by the bylaws.
"Get on the board"? That's not going to happen if you've got experience or knowledge in HPP affairs. You aren't welcome. You've forgotten that friends of your's, board members who had experience resigned because of this. 6 board members left in one year. That's got to be a record and it speaks volumes about volunteers not wanting to work w/bylaw breaking board members. Many committee members have quit for the same reasons. Who should abide by the bylaws watchdog? You're speaking to the wrong entity. Members aren't breaking bylaws..it's the majority board.