11-11-2015, 05:06 AM
the Hawaiians are re-forming a government, a representative body, and once that is done it is very likely the focus of their attention will be to negotiate the return of land... If so all the telescopes, and whether or not they stay or get built at all, will be a matter for the Hawaiian people to decide.
The Hawaiian government may be a long time coming. The proposed vote currently on the table is not even close to being universally supported by the Hawaiian people. It may or may not take place. If it does take place it may be rescinded or replaced with a more democratic proposal that represents a greater number of Hawaiians.
The imminent uprising of the Hawaiian Nation as promised by the 200-300 protesters on Mauna Kea, and the 1000 marchers in Honolulu never materialized. The estimate of 10,000 people marching in Honolulu was a mythical number pulled out of thin air by the organizer of the protest himself, and then reported by the Star-Bulletin. Read the newspaper account. Look at the photos. A more reasonable estimate would be 1000 anti-TMT & 1000 anti-GMO protesters marching.
The reformed Hawaiian government could take decades to organize. Then decades more for the transfer of power and land to take place. As an example, Hong Kong began negotiations with mainland China for transfer of the territory in the mid 1970's. The legal transfer took place in 1997.
A great deal of astronomical discovery can take place in 20 years. Did we even know there were planets outside of our own solar system 20 years ago?
The Hawaiian government may be a long time coming. The proposed vote currently on the table is not even close to being universally supported by the Hawaiian people. It may or may not take place. If it does take place it may be rescinded or replaced with a more democratic proposal that represents a greater number of Hawaiians.
The imminent uprising of the Hawaiian Nation as promised by the 200-300 protesters on Mauna Kea, and the 1000 marchers in Honolulu never materialized. The estimate of 10,000 people marching in Honolulu was a mythical number pulled out of thin air by the organizer of the protest himself, and then reported by the Star-Bulletin. Read the newspaper account. Look at the photos. A more reasonable estimate would be 1000 anti-TMT & 1000 anti-GMO protesters marching.
The reformed Hawaiian government could take decades to organize. Then decades more for the transfer of power and land to take place. As an example, Hong Kong began negotiations with mainland China for transfer of the territory in the mid 1970's. The legal transfer took place in 1997.
A great deal of astronomical discovery can take place in 20 years. Did we even know there were planets outside of our own solar system 20 years ago?
"I'm at that stage in life where I stay out of discussions. Even if you say 1+1=5, you're right - have fun." - Keanu Reeves