01-20-2016, 11:41 AM
Please go to this website which discusses a town in Minnesota who have chip sealed their gravel roads. It shows all the phases they used, photos, specs for each step and the after effects. As you will find if you go to the link, it is a very complex project which involved experts in all phases from A-Z of the project. They consulted w/someone from the Minnesota DOT.
Most sites I looked at spoke of chip seal being a material laid over asphalt ONLY. Conclusion: There's a lot of variable opinions and advice out there and each board member should be researching, instead of following a couple of board members who are vehemently pushing to lay chip seal down on ALL our roads. The ones pushing don't want any membership input. The decision to spend over $300,000 changing the whole of HPP's roads justifies their researching and educating themselves first.
They have chosen to forge ahead w/chip seal despite the membership vote at the last membership meeting to present us with chip seal info. We don't know the process they plan to use to lay it; what contractors have put in bids; and if they're still pursuing to do the work in house w/all the proper permits and contractor's license required. What's the harm to allow the membership to vote on such an important matter that will affect our daily lives for years to come? I'm baffled at their resistance and combativeness w/membership input.
Are they prepared to allow a test road on a busy road, not a dead end, to sit for one full year to get an accurate conclusion? Obviously a test road for only a few months won't give an accurate conclusion, therefore won't justify spending that kind of money laying this product down all over HPP.
How will chip seal perform on humpey roads that pool water? We have many of those. As well as a lot of cross streets that aren't flat. We have many rutty roads and roads w/historical pot hole issues that may need expertise assessment (engineer) to fix these issues before chip sealing. What happens to the integrity of the chip seal where it meets dirt driveways or asphalt driveways? Do we have experts that will be behind the project like the Silver Creek Township had? Will we have the equipment and expertise of running that equipment?
What if this product fails due to hasty decisions and poor application? Is the full board prepared to take full responsibility if this product fails?
This link is for the Silver Creek Township Chip Seal Project. Sorry, you can't click on it, you'll have to copy and paste then insert into your search bar. Then click on "Final Result Silver Creek" w/in the search results for Silver Creek. (If anyone knows how to do this and can put it here on this thread, that'd be great!)
www.mnltap.umn.edu/.../annual/2013/projects/documents/silvercreek.pdf
By past observations at board mtgs and the non transparency surrounding the chip seal project along w/other HPP biz, some of us aren't confident with their decision and the requirements needed for successful results. Each one of our cross roads has their own individual issues or not, and I would assume an engineer should be involved for the entire project. I don't believe there will be an engineer. Just our GM and the road crew perhaps...I don't know bc they're not talking. I will add more info on chip seal in a separate post.
Most sites I looked at spoke of chip seal being a material laid over asphalt ONLY. Conclusion: There's a lot of variable opinions and advice out there and each board member should be researching, instead of following a couple of board members who are vehemently pushing to lay chip seal down on ALL our roads. The ones pushing don't want any membership input. The decision to spend over $300,000 changing the whole of HPP's roads justifies their researching and educating themselves first.
They have chosen to forge ahead w/chip seal despite the membership vote at the last membership meeting to present us with chip seal info. We don't know the process they plan to use to lay it; what contractors have put in bids; and if they're still pursuing to do the work in house w/all the proper permits and contractor's license required. What's the harm to allow the membership to vote on such an important matter that will affect our daily lives for years to come? I'm baffled at their resistance and combativeness w/membership input.
Are they prepared to allow a test road on a busy road, not a dead end, to sit for one full year to get an accurate conclusion? Obviously a test road for only a few months won't give an accurate conclusion, therefore won't justify spending that kind of money laying this product down all over HPP.
How will chip seal perform on humpey roads that pool water? We have many of those. As well as a lot of cross streets that aren't flat. We have many rutty roads and roads w/historical pot hole issues that may need expertise assessment (engineer) to fix these issues before chip sealing. What happens to the integrity of the chip seal where it meets dirt driveways or asphalt driveways? Do we have experts that will be behind the project like the Silver Creek Township had? Will we have the equipment and expertise of running that equipment?
What if this product fails due to hasty decisions and poor application? Is the full board prepared to take full responsibility if this product fails?
This link is for the Silver Creek Township Chip Seal Project. Sorry, you can't click on it, you'll have to copy and paste then insert into your search bar. Then click on "Final Result Silver Creek" w/in the search results for Silver Creek. (If anyone knows how to do this and can put it here on this thread, that'd be great!)
www.mnltap.umn.edu/.../annual/2013/projects/documents/silvercreek.pdf
By past observations at board mtgs and the non transparency surrounding the chip seal project along w/other HPP biz, some of us aren't confident with their decision and the requirements needed for successful results. Each one of our cross roads has their own individual issues or not, and I would assume an engineer should be involved for the entire project. I don't believe there will be an engineer. Just our GM and the road crew perhaps...I don't know bc they're not talking. I will add more info on chip seal in a separate post.