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Forced vaccinations
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Those who would like to blame the non-vaccinated for everything may find this interesting:

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00000359.htm

Vaccination, like abortion and Hawaiian History, is a subject where each side suffers from hardening of the categories and it is very difficult to find out what is actually going on.

Simplistic ideas like "vaccines wiped out polio (and typhoid? Wink) in the United States" on one side are met with naturalistic fallacies and Orwellian scenarios on the other.

If all vaccines were perfect (in effectiveness and no side effects--an impossibility) it might well be the government's job to enforce compliance. Vaccines vary in effectiveness and side effects and there are no one size fits all arguments--though each side never tires of them. And emotions run high on each side--both blaming the other side for killing and/or maiming people, essentially.

If the government can now compel every citizen to buy something (health care insurance), and it considers a corporation to be no different than an individual (basically selling the elected officials off), mandatory vaccines seem to fall right in line. Some countries have had mandatory vaccination programs (sometimes with unintended results) and the seams of the universe didn't come unseamed.

I'll watch the sides jab at each other with hubris, somewhat uncomfortable that I don't know if I would vaccinate a child today or not. We decided not to 18 years ago and were uncomfortable with the decision then...

I wonder, any parents with grown kids look back with any regrets on their vaccination decisions?

Cheers,
Kirt

typo "is to "are" and "too" to "to"
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Forced vaccinations - by rarni - 02-01-2016, 04:02 PM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by bananahead - 02-01-2016, 04:05 PM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by lquade - 02-01-2016, 04:10 PM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by geochem - 02-01-2016, 04:44 PM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by shockwave rider - 02-01-2016, 05:00 PM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by Chunkster - 02-01-2016, 05:22 PM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by TomK - 02-01-2016, 07:46 PM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by Lodestone - 02-02-2016, 01:50 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by leilanidude - 02-02-2016, 03:09 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by Rob Tucker - 02-02-2016, 03:15 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by Kapoho Joe - 02-02-2016, 04:53 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by PunaMauka2 - 02-02-2016, 05:05 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by kalakoa - 02-02-2016, 05:23 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-02-2016, 06:22 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by DTisme - 02-02-2016, 06:26 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by knieft - 02-02-2016, 08:52 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by Obie - 02-02-2016, 09:21 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by EvilOctopus - 02-02-2016, 10:12 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-02-2016, 10:12 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by PunaMauka2 - 02-02-2016, 10:31 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by Tom.Yost - 02-02-2016, 10:47 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-02-2016, 11:05 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by PunaMauka2 - 02-02-2016, 11:15 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by VancouverIslander - 02-02-2016, 11:36 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by PaulW - 02-02-2016, 11:53 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by knieft - 02-02-2016, 11:55 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by Rob Tucker - 02-02-2016, 11:57 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by PaulW - 02-02-2016, 12:16 PM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by knieft - 02-02-2016, 12:21 PM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by kalakoa - 02-02-2016, 12:31 PM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by knieft - 02-02-2016, 12:45 PM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by lquade - 02-02-2016, 01:21 PM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by sactokim - 02-02-2016, 01:38 PM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by shockwave rider - 02-02-2016, 01:52 PM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by Rob Tucker - 02-02-2016, 02:14 PM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by MBB - 02-02-2016, 02:38 PM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by kalakoa - 02-02-2016, 02:58 PM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-02-2016, 03:28 PM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by leilanidude - 02-02-2016, 03:35 PM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by Punatic007 - 02-02-2016, 03:36 PM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by PaulW - 02-02-2016, 05:37 PM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by alaskyn66 - 02-02-2016, 06:04 PM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by VancouverIslander - 02-03-2016, 01:45 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by kalakoa - 02-03-2016, 03:52 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by knieft - 02-03-2016, 04:01 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-03-2016, 04:27 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by knieft - 02-03-2016, 04:39 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by PaulW - 02-03-2016, 04:40 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by PaulW - 02-03-2016, 04:43 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by PaulW - 02-03-2016, 04:46 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-03-2016, 05:10 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by MBB - 02-03-2016, 05:41 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by PaulW - 02-03-2016, 05:55 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by knieft - 02-03-2016, 06:33 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by ironyak - 02-03-2016, 07:07 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by PaulW - 02-03-2016, 07:13 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by PaulW - 02-03-2016, 07:15 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by PunaMauka2 - 02-03-2016, 07:18 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by PaulW - 02-03-2016, 09:10 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by PunaMauka2 - 02-03-2016, 10:06 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by bystander - 02-03-2016, 01:25 PM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-03-2016, 01:58 PM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by bystander - 02-03-2016, 02:06 PM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by TomK - 02-03-2016, 05:43 PM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by PaulW - 02-03-2016, 05:59 PM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by TomK - 02-03-2016, 06:10 PM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by PaulW - 02-03-2016, 06:35 PM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by bystander - 02-04-2016, 03:05 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-04-2016, 04:54 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by bystander - 02-04-2016, 05:16 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by PunaMauka2 - 02-04-2016, 05:31 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by Punatic007 - 02-04-2016, 06:13 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by PaulW - 02-04-2016, 06:30 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by Rob Tucker - 02-04-2016, 06:56 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by Chunkster - 02-04-2016, 06:57 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by ironyak - 02-04-2016, 08:01 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by VancouverIslander - 02-04-2016, 08:47 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by knieft - 02-04-2016, 08:56 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by PaulW - 02-04-2016, 09:11 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by ironyak - 02-04-2016, 09:51 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by Obie - 02-04-2016, 10:03 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by knieft - 02-04-2016, 10:22 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by PaulW - 02-04-2016, 10:51 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by knieft - 02-04-2016, 11:10 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by leilanidude - 02-04-2016, 12:40 PM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by Punatic007 - 02-04-2016, 01:13 PM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by bystander - 02-04-2016, 01:56 PM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by bananahead - 02-04-2016, 05:24 PM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by TomK - 02-04-2016, 10:30 PM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by ironyak - 02-04-2016, 11:40 PM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by knieft - 02-05-2016, 03:00 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by kalakoa - 02-05-2016, 03:32 AM
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RE: Forced vaccinations - by kalakoa - 02-05-2016, 04:33 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-05-2016, 05:16 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by bystander - 02-05-2016, 06:27 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by ironyak - 02-05-2016, 06:48 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by kalakoa - 02-05-2016, 06:58 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by Punatic007 - 02-05-2016, 09:21 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by PaulW - 02-05-2016, 09:43 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by Justin - 02-05-2016, 10:03 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-05-2016, 11:01 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by Justin - 02-05-2016, 11:14 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by ironyak - 02-05-2016, 11:33 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by Rob Tucker - 02-05-2016, 12:10 PM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by Guest - 02-05-2016, 12:24 PM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by bystander - 02-05-2016, 04:32 PM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by TomK - 02-05-2016, 06:48 PM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by ironyak - 02-06-2016, 01:34 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by MBB - 02-22-2016, 07:06 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-22-2016, 08:52 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by Punatic007 - 02-22-2016, 08:56 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by VancouverIslander - 02-22-2016, 09:08 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by knieft - 02-22-2016, 09:33 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-22-2016, 09:34 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by knieft - 02-22-2016, 09:42 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by Rob Tucker - 02-22-2016, 10:21 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by Obie - 02-22-2016, 10:43 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by shockwave rider - 02-22-2016, 11:15 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by ironyak - 02-22-2016, 11:20 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by knieft - 02-22-2016, 11:52 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by PunaMauka2 - 02-22-2016, 12:02 PM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by TomK - 02-22-2016, 09:47 PM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by PunaMauka2 - 02-23-2016, 01:08 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by Kenney - 02-23-2016, 03:23 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by TomK - 02-23-2016, 04:29 PM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by Punatic007 - 02-23-2016, 06:35 PM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by TomK - 02-23-2016, 07:59 PM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by Kenney - 02-24-2016, 02:42 AM
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RE: Forced vaccinations - by VancouverIslander - 02-24-2016, 04:34 AM
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RE: Forced vaccinations - by VancouverIslander - 02-25-2016, 02:08 AM
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RE: Forced vaccinations - by PunaMauka2 - 02-26-2016, 08:44 AM
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RE: Forced vaccinations - by Lodestone - 02-27-2016, 04:44 PM
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RE: Forced vaccinations - by Punatic007 - 02-28-2016, 11:14 AM
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RE: Forced vaccinations - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-28-2016, 01:45 PM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by TomK - 02-28-2016, 08:43 PM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by VancouverIslander - 02-29-2016, 01:55 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by MBB - 02-29-2016, 05:29 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by PaulW - 02-29-2016, 05:59 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-29-2016, 06:10 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by VancouverIslander - 02-29-2016, 12:07 PM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by MBB - 02-29-2016, 01:18 PM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by Lodestone - 02-29-2016, 01:19 PM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by VancouverIslander - 02-29-2016, 09:35 PM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by TomK - 02-29-2016, 10:09 PM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by MBB - 03-01-2016, 03:15 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by Punatic007 - 03-01-2016, 01:15 PM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by PaulW - 03-01-2016, 08:24 PM
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RE: Forced vaccinations - by VancouverIslander - 03-02-2016, 01:55 AM
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RE: Forced vaccinations - by Kenney - 03-02-2016, 06:21 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by Punatic007 - 03-02-2016, 07:58 AM
RE: Forced vaccinations - by Rob Tucker - 03-02-2016, 08:00 AM
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