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An actual invasion of Hawaii was never a serious objective, it was about crippling US naval capabilities, preferably to be destroyed in a long sought but elusive single stroke of glorious victory in battle, destroying the US fleet, paving the way for a negotiated peace favorable to Japan. This was the primary goal for the Japanese in initiating the battle of Midway. There were some who advocated for an invasion and occupation of Hawaii after the expected victory at Midway, but it appears Japanese high command didn't take this idea all that seriously or as much of a priority. Of course the plan to lure out and then destroy the bulk of US naval power during the battle of Midway didn't materialize, quite the contrary. So we can throw a bone to HOTPE and go ahead and say, yeah, theoretically it was a possibility in the woulda-coulda-shoulda of alternate historical fiction.


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Pointless thread - by Obie - 01-25-2016, 04:57 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 01-25-2016, 05:37 PM
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RE: Pointless thread - by PaulW - 01-26-2016, 01:19 AM
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RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 01-26-2016, 06:17 AM
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RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 01-26-2016, 07:02 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 01-26-2016, 07:56 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by Obie - 01-26-2016, 08:01 AM
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RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 01-26-2016, 05:37 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 01-26-2016, 09:45 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by Aaron S - 01-27-2016, 02:56 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by dakine - 01-27-2016, 03:00 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by PunaMauka2 - 01-27-2016, 04:03 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 01-27-2016, 05:28 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by Obie - 01-27-2016, 05:58 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by VancouverIslander - 01-28-2016, 05:51 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 01-28-2016, 06:47 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by snorkle - 01-28-2016, 07:46 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 01-28-2016, 07:52 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by PunaMauka2 - 01-28-2016, 08:35 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by The_Saints - 01-28-2016, 09:10 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by PunaMauka2 - 01-28-2016, 10:16 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by kalakoa - 01-28-2016, 10:20 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by PunaMauka2 - 01-28-2016, 10:32 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by The_Saints - 01-28-2016, 10:48 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by kalakoa - 01-28-2016, 10:51 AM
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RE: Pointless thread - by VancouverIslander - 01-28-2016, 11:15 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by PunaMauka2 - 01-28-2016, 11:28 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by PunaMauka2 - 01-28-2016, 11:35 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by The_Saints - 01-28-2016, 11:57 AM
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RE: Pointless thread - by kalakoa - 01-28-2016, 04:03 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 01-28-2016, 07:34 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by pahoated - 01-28-2016, 08:39 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by snorkle - 01-29-2016, 01:40 AM
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RE: Pointless thread - by dakine - 01-29-2016, 04:26 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 01-29-2016, 06:46 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by kalakoa - 01-29-2016, 06:59 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by dakine - 01-29-2016, 12:43 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by VancouverIslander - 01-29-2016, 01:51 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 01-29-2016, 02:21 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by Guest - 01-29-2016, 02:32 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by dakine - 01-29-2016, 02:40 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 01-29-2016, 02:56 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by dakine - 01-29-2016, 03:45 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by knieft - 01-29-2016, 03:54 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 01-29-2016, 04:15 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 01-29-2016, 06:47 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by kalakoa - 01-30-2016, 06:52 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 01-30-2016, 08:12 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by Kenney - 01-31-2016, 06:48 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by Aaron S - 02-01-2016, 03:15 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by pahoated - 02-01-2016, 08:06 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by Guest - 02-02-2016, 12:53 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by dakine - 02-02-2016, 03:51 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-02-2016, 04:07 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by kalakoa - 02-02-2016, 05:19 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by beejee - 02-06-2016, 03:32 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by Aaron S - 02-06-2016, 06:11 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by Aaron S - 02-06-2016, 06:13 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by Guest - 02-06-2016, 09:11 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by dakine - 02-06-2016, 09:32 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-06-2016, 09:49 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by pahoated - 02-06-2016, 11:04 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by AKpilot - 02-06-2016, 11:26 AM
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RE: Pointless thread - by Chunkster - 02-06-2016, 12:20 PM
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RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 02-06-2016, 06:38 PM
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RE: Pointless thread - by kalakoa - 02-09-2016, 07:36 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-09-2016, 08:35 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by Guest - 02-09-2016, 08:49 AM
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RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-09-2016, 09:36 AM
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RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 02-09-2016, 04:06 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-09-2016, 04:18 PM
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RE: Pointless thread - by robguz - 02-10-2016, 07:04 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by Guest - 02-10-2016, 07:38 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-10-2016, 08:11 AM
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RE: Pointless thread - by PunaMauka2 - 02-10-2016, 08:46 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by dakine - 02-10-2016, 10:24 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by Guest - 02-10-2016, 11:02 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-10-2016, 11:36 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by dakine - 02-10-2016, 12:11 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-10-2016, 12:34 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by Chunkster - 02-10-2016, 01:51 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 02-10-2016, 03:17 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 02-10-2016, 04:15 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by SBH - 02-11-2016, 02:28 AM
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RE: Pointless thread - by pahoated - 02-11-2016, 03:41 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by Obie - 02-11-2016, 04:02 PM
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RE: Pointless thread - by Guest - 02-11-2016, 05:28 PM
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RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 02-12-2016, 05:09 PM
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RE: Pointless thread - by pahoated - 02-13-2016, 06:25 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by Lodestone - 02-13-2016, 07:36 AM
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RE: Pointless thread - by snorkle - 02-13-2016, 12:00 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by Aaron S - 02-13-2016, 12:01 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-13-2016, 12:40 PM
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RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-13-2016, 02:51 PM
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RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 02-13-2016, 06:48 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 02-13-2016, 07:56 PM
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RE: Pointless thread - by Lodestone - 02-14-2016, 06:16 AM
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RE: Pointless thread - by dmbwest - 02-14-2016, 05:09 PM
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RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 02-14-2016, 06:38 PM
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RE: Pointless thread - by ericlp - 02-14-2016, 07:51 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 02-14-2016, 09:32 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by kalakoa - 02-15-2016, 04:35 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by Guest - 02-15-2016, 04:50 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-15-2016, 05:10 AM
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RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-15-2016, 08:51 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by kalakoa - 02-15-2016, 08:52 AM
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RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-20-2016, 05:18 AM
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RE: Pointless thread - by PunaMauka2 - 03-03-2016, 09:09 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by kalakoa - 03-03-2016, 09:20 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by kalakoa - 03-03-2016, 09:36 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by ironyak - 03-03-2016, 09:38 AM
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